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Subject: Re: Enabling portamento mono mode

From: "korgpolyex800" <korgpolyex800@...>
Date: 2007-12-12

Alex,

I like your humour. :-)

If I ever buy a MKII I will look at the design and see if it could be
fitted into it.

But the kit only works in the EX800 and Poly MK1. It does not work in
the MKII. Sorry :-(

Mike.

--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "Alexander" <arf_hotdogdeity@...>
wrote:
>
> People spend a lot more than that on glitchy hardware. Look at the
> SIDStation. It's a crashy glitchy mess but people still bought them :)
>
> I want one of these for my MKII :)
>
> --- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, Michael Hawkins <korgpolyex800@>
> wrote:
> >
> > The only name I have on those first five boards is Mike! LOL
> >
> > But if they work straight out of the box, which would be a miracle,
> then you never know what your luck might be. :-)
> >
> > I'm certainly glad my kit is getting so much attention. The real
> question is going to be "how many people want to spend 100 bucks on a
> kit that gives you glitchy portamento mono mode"?
> >
> > Mike.
> >
> > Marcus Wilson <JB@> wrote: have you
> got names against those 5 boards yet?
> >
> >
> > If not, I would like to be included in the first batch
> >
> >
> > best regards,
> >
> >
> > Marcus Wilson
> >
> > On 11/12/2007, at 9:57 PM, korgpolyex800 wrote:
> >
> > Hi Atom,
> >
> > I agree with everything you said.
> >
> > i) I'll keep portamento even if it is glitchy.
> > ii) I'll change the Poly key to be the mode key so that each time you
> > press the Poly key you switch to the next mode (Poly, Chord, Hold,
> > Mono, Poly...).
> > iii) there will be CC's to change the mode too.
> > iv) for visual indication P for poly is already used so we need to
> > come up with a letter that would indicate portamento mono mode. I
> > thought "S" would work but it looks like a "5". Anyone got any
> > suggestions?
> >
> > Further testing last night revealed that the bend is so slow to react
> > to changes at higher slide rates that the portamento rapidly turns
> > into stepped DCO semitone changes. So it sounds best at really slow
> > rates where you glide from one octave to another over a period of 5 to
> > 10 seconds. Even then you can still hear the little glitches. My last
> > option now is to try to speed up the master clock reaction to bend
> > changes and try to improve the sample and hold circuit. I wish I had a
> > frequency counter and oscilloscope right now.
> >
> > But, when I run into walls like this I take a break so that I can come
> > back to it with a fresh perspective so I think I'll leave it all alone
> > as I have other pressing work to do.
> >
> > Wish those 5 boards would get here soon.
> >
> > Mike.
> >
> > --- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, Atom Smasher <atom@> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Mon, 10 Dec 2007, korgpolyex800 wrote:
> > >
> > > > I could rewrite the code to toggle between Poly and mono mode
> > using the
> > > > Poly key. Another way might be to make the Poly key the selector
> for
> > > > Poly, Mono, Chord and Hold mode. Each time you press the poly key
> > would
> > > > move you into the next mode. That would free up the chord and
hold
> > > > buttons to be used for selecting global mode and extended
parameter
> > > > entry modes (or other things if we decide to add more).
> > > >
> > > > What do you all think?
> > > ================================
> > >
> > > that would work, since the modes are (or can be) exclusive...
> > probably not
> > > everyone on the list has a PC1600 (or similar), but i'd be happy as
> > long
> > > as i can select the modes using standard MIDI CCs. do you think
> > you'd be
> > > able to provide visual indication of which mode is currently
selected?
> > >
> > >
> > > > I now need to determine if the glitch is caused by the master
clock
> > > > being incapable of tracking the output of the DAC when a square
> wave
> > > > edge change occurs in the bend or if the DAC sample hold circuit
> > is too
> > > > slow. If it's just the sample and hold then I may be able to
> > reduce the
> > > > sample hold capacitor to improve the highest possible rate of
> > change. If
> > > > it is due to the master clock not being able to change frequencies
> > fast
> > > > then I think we might be out of luck. So much so that the only
> way to
> > > > get good portamento would be to build a new master clock that was
> > able
> > > > to slide the full five octaves.
> > > ==================
> > >
> > > maybe you'll come up with a different way to approach the problem..?
> > >
> > > even if it's glitchy, i'm sure it's still usable... i was just
> > talking to
> > > tom (the guy who i made the first moog-slayer for) and he
reminded me
> > > about a patch i wrote for him on a CZ-101... listening to it
> > straight from
> > > the CZ it sounded kinda cold and very digital, but in the
> foreground of
> > > the mix and with some reverb (we probably used a BOSS SE-50) it
> sounded
> > > sweet and analog and warm and huge. years later it still impressed
> > him. so
> > > i'd be interested in it even if it is glitchy...
> > >
> > > and if you "fix" it in a later release, leave the option of
using the
> > > glitchy version... seriously... one never knows what genres of music
> > might
> > > be formed from an obscure glitch...
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > ...atom
> > >
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