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From: Rainer Hain [mailto:
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Sent: Friday, May 12, 2000 11:57 PM
To: 'analog heaven'
Subject: RE: [AH] JP-6 vs. Nord 2
> The Jupiter-6 specs look alike the Nord2 and therefore people have
> the tendency to compare features again features. The nord though, sounds
> much more like a JP-8 than a JP-6.
Funny you mentioned that. Hans Nordelius actually modelled the Nord after a
MKS-80 and a P5, that was what he had. As the MKS-80 is a JP-8 with a good
deal of JP-6 circuitery (as some technician explained to me once), your
description of the Nords sound is really dead on.
> Anyway, the Jupiter-6 filter just sounds more aggressive than the
> Nord filter.
I agree also. Though I've succeeded in covering some of my favourite patches
of the JP-6 featuring the BP-filter. It's not dead on, but close enough.
> It can sound big, especially when putting it into unison. But the filters
> are modeled after Roland stuff and therefore you won't find the moog sound
> in it.
They later fixed that by adding a "classic" LP-filter in the Nord Modular.
It's not really a Moog-ladder, but it's really a different and more moogish
flavour.
They finally put it in the NL3 as I saw on the Frankfurt Music Fair.
> But other people might like it fatter and prefer the Virus over the Nord
> Lead. Now, I do have enough stuff that sounds fat already, so for me the
> Nord fits perfect.
Agree 100%. That sound is what I got my JP-6 for and now I'm covering that
sounds with a Nord Modular - actually a shame for such a synth. But hey: Who
said a Modular is not for bread-and-butter-sounds as well?
> No idea of what I would prefer, the Nord2 or a JP-6 when I had to
> choose. Probably I would go for the Nord because it can do more
> in a studio
> and is fully midi capable. Anyway, it is a good replacement for my JP-8
> though.
Exactely. My JP-6 is gathering dust now. I had most of my sounds converted
to the Nord. I found it great to have the basic Jupiter-sound and throw the
morphs in, or the third envelope or the second LFO or whatever. Most of the
time I liked the Nords impersonation of a Jupiter-Sound more than the
original.
Actually I remember when those analog monsters where new, everybody did
nearly everything to make those things more lively. The general opinion was
that you have to do quite some things to a synth in the studio to make it
really organic sounding.
That was the time when people complained about the quality they lost with
the polyphonic hardwired synths as opposed to the analog modulars that
surely had anything needed to spice up a sound.
Now that VA synths gave us morphs, velocity and a mod-matrix, I'm more than
satisfied and tend to find many of that 80's poly-sounds pretty boring.
Unfortunately they are the strengths of the Jupiter. A brass sound always
makes me looking for a third envelope for pitch and velocity to take care of
the filter.
I guess that's why I don't use a Jupiter-6 too much anymore. I just got
bored. Sure it has a great basic sound, a great oscillator, but I miss the
modulations modern synths gave me and the difference they make.
Rainer