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Subject: Re: [motmpanels] standardization & macros

From: "Scott Deyo" <thom_s4@...>
Date: 2002-10-19

>I suppose the basic (conflicting) issues are cost and customization. I'm
>for standardization for ease of designing and reduced cost (by several of
>us ordering the same panel - but see Cost Note below). However, I assume
>like some others, I value being able to customize a panel to my viewpoint
>and my limited physical space for inserting modules.

I'm definitely on the saving-money tip, which is the main reason I don't use
tick marks.



>
>Cost Note: I'm not entirely convinced that the Schaeffer discounts apply
>to only the same .fpd files. I previously placed an order that contained
>5 different files (that totaled over $200) and asked Kai if I could
>possibly
>receive a discount. If I remember correctly, he did take off 5% or 10%.
>So, if we submit a 'reasonable' number of files, we could ask Kai if he
>would apply a discount to the entire lot (we certainly couldn't lose by
>asking).

Last time I ordered around 30 panels, and only received discounts on designs
w/ 5 or more panels ordered. But Jurgen also said something about asking for
discounts. Maybe Kai would be willing to knock a little of the entire order
if we told him it was for a bunch of people. Definitely worth a try.

>
> >Richard wrote:
> >I am not worried about exactly matching MOTM. I would just like to have
> >11 main detent tick marks on each dial, like the MOTM.
>Yes, here I am in agreement. Even a number on each of the tick marks
>(like I have on my designs) isn't crucial to me (again, 110 as an
>example).

Sounds good.

>
>
> >Richard wrote:
> >Since we started the standards, topic, how about hole sizes?
>Again this depends on what components are being used by individuals. For
>example, on Oakley modules I buy the Omeg pots, which require a slightly
>larger hole size than the Spectrol and Bourns that usually go into motm
>modules. It becomes more complicated if one uses another pot
>manufacturer, say Alpha, which I have used in some of my EFM and CGS
>designs (just because I had the pot's on hand).

10.5mm holes (or whatever are on Oakley files) work well for Omeg and Alpha.
I've used both. The Alphas have smaller bushings, but it looks the same
after they're secured.

>
>
> >The standard MOTM Lumex LED goes in a 5/16" hole.
>This is true for the 'single color' Lumex's that are used in motm's, but
>Lumex makes other sized led's. There is a bicolor Lumex led that I like
>that takes a 1/4" hole.
>
> >Another approach would be to make all LED holes 1/4" and
> >let people who want to use the Lumex part just drill them out.
>A possibility I would consider. However, one of the things I like about
>getting Schaeffer panels is that I don't have to drill holes.
>

I don't like to drill w/o a pilot either, because of the possibility of
scratching an expensive, time-consumingly designed panel, but if there's a
biggish hole there already, it is pretty much failproof and quick.

Scott

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