I, like Will have been earning royalties all of my adult life and the idea that I would ask for 20% of someone's list price would set of a litigation bomb.
To push this charge onto us is inappropriate and a bummer for all of us. Somebody is trying to commoditize what we share and give away without our specific consent. This is legally specious and morally ambiguous. What next ? Does EM own your ideas because they provided space for a post about one?
I don't believe that Tom White or Scott Stites would be party to this attempt at usury and that Scott Deyo would even associate with someone with this "Mustache Pete", Morris Levy sense of ownership. What % is the estate of Paul Klee getting ? Don't doubt Scott that if you make that 20% payment that they will show up asking why you did not make it to them.
I won't pay it and nobody else should either. I already bought my boards and they are the Klee, everything else just finishes it. If that is not the case then I have a civil AG complaint against EM.
best
gw
I suggest once again that Scott do a generic sequencer panel and maybe Toe White will donate a design.
--- In ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com, Scott Deyo <contact@...> wrote:
>
> I see the point that I'm making a profit on the panels, but it's just
> odd that someone could order the FPE panel at nearly $300 and E-M would
> get nothing. And like others have said, a cheaper panel leads to more
> PCB sales.
> To me, the spirit of DIY is manifest in folks like Thomas, who just
> gave me the product of all his work, and to everyone who helps me. And
> in Scott Stites, who donated such a huge, cool design to E-M.
> All of the "businesses" juggle the passion and business sides of
> modulars. We all have the passion, and most of us are not so good at
> the business end. Sometimes the ball lands a bit on the business/ money
> end, and that sours it a bit for me. It has to remain fun, or it really
> doesn't make sense to continue, business-wise.
> But Mosc and I will work something out. E-M is a great forum, and I'm
> sure it takes a bit of money and a lot of time to do, and it benefits
> all of us, especially the Bridechamber.
>
> Now I just hope that Ian, Scott, Paul, Jurgen, Ken, Paul, Ray, Yves,
> Grant, John and Tim, Thomas, Richard, Ryan, the 'ill's, Mr. Mike, and
> everyone else don't get any ideas...
> : )
>
> To me the biggest bummer is just that I've been answering emails all
> day. Another day, further behind!
>
> And as far as royalties on parts... I guess State Machine gives a cut
> on kits he sells. So I'm out on the kit end of it.
>
> But I hope everything I said doesn't sound negative. We'll have these
> panels soon!!!!
> Ze Klee is on de Vay!
>
> Scott Deyo
> The Bridechamber
> contact@...
> http://www.bridechamber.com
> Jealous Edison Record Kompany
> http://www.jealousedison.com
>
>
> On Apr 6, 2009, at 3:13 PM, Scott Juskiw wrote:
>
> > That's absolutely ridiculous and I am vehemently opposed to it. I paid
> > royalties when I bought the PCBs. Are they also going to ask for a
> > royalty on all the pots and switches needed to build it too? Besides,
> > didn't Thomas White design the panel? Shouldn't he get the royalties
> > instead? I suppose I should ask for a 20% royalty on all those Neural
> > Agonizer and Doomsday Machine panels that Bridechamber also sells,
> > even though I didn't design them either. Where does this nonsense end?
> >
> > Of course, Bridechamber could have silently included a royalty in the
> > panel sale from the onset and we'd never have known. Kudos to Scott
> > for being up front. Shame on E-M.
> >
> > On 6-Apr-09, at 12:15 PM, Scott Deyo wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I've been told that since the Klee is property of E-M, I am supposed
> > > to
> > > add 20% royalty on panel sales. It's tricky for me to bring this up,
> > > but obviously I have to.
> > > I need to know if everyone who committed, is still committed to the
> > > panels @ ~$120 instead of ~$100.
> > >
> > > General discussion of the royalty is OK, too, but... Probably
> > everyone
> > > will be more than happy to support E-M, but I just had to say "No
> > > flaming please!!!"
> > > : )
> >
> >
>