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Subject: Re: [ModularSynthPanels] Klee panel E-M royalty

From: Scott K Warren <scott@...>
Date: 2009-04-06

James, royalties don't automagically "kick in" due to someone's use in a for-profit business.  A royalty obligation arises only if the owner of the intellectual property requires it in his terms of use, and of course only the owner could so require.

E-M does not own the Thomas White elliptical panel design, and so has no right to require a royalty.

As Bill said, if Thomas White wanted a royalty he would be entitled to it, and I doubt any of us would begrudge it. (But if Mr. White does, he should speak up soon!)

skw


On Apr 6, 2009, at 3:31 PM, JAMES GALLANT wrote:

Please feel free to correct me if I am incorrect in any of the following.
 
Anyone can make a panel for their own use without royalty.
 
T. White's rotary design is an FPD file that can be found in the files section of this group and is for purchasing a professional quality panel from Front Panel Express - Schafer.
 
T. White has given permission to Bridechamber for use of this design for a run of panels.  These will presumably be painted and screened and therefore somewhat different in appearance from the FPD panels.  There may be some other tweaks too.
 
S. Stites did the actual design of the Klee circuitry and I assume that he (or E-M) own the rights to the Klee name and that E-M dot com is the only authorized source for the PCB's.
 
It is my understanding that the panel royalty kicks in due to the fact that Bridechamber is a for profit business which takes him outside of the personal use arena.  Therefore Mr. Deyo needs and deserves to get something in return for his time and trouble beyond all of the thanks and praise that we heap upon him.  As a result, since Scott D. will make (a tiny amount of) money off of this effort, it follows that Scott S. (aka E-M) who is the owner of the source intellectual property should reap some benefit too.
 
Just my thoughts, which could be wrong.
 
James
 
 
 

 

To: ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com
From: jason@...
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 13:04:58 -0700
Subject: Re: [ModularSynthPanels] Klee panel E-M royalty

IMHO, the royalties for the Klee are paid when you buy the PCB. 
that's where the bottleneck is and should be.

however, if people are willing to include a little extra for 
electro-music, then fair enough, but that should be an optional extra 
when you buy your panel. a little like funding campaign stuff from 
your taxes (ooh, topical).

>That's what I was thinking too. Haven't others made panels for 
>their Klees? Are they expected to pay EM as well?
>
>-=john