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Subject: Re: [ModularSynthPanels] Bug panel -- decisions...

From: Scott Deyo <contact@...>
Date: 2008-03-17

I've got it. I'll do both. Otherwise either the newbies or the veterans
will be ornery : )

Scott Deyo
The Bridechamber
contact@...
www.bridechamber.com


On Mar 17, 2008, at 1:51 AM, James Elliott wrote:

> +1 for option #2
>
> -Jim
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Scott Deyo <contact@...>
> To: ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 8:54:21 PM
> Subject: [ModularSynthPanels] Bug panel -- decisions...
>
> Maybe the question should be:
> Which of the following do you want? --
> 1) 2U panel that uses only the PCB circuit
> 2) 5U panel that uses 2 PCBs plus user-built circuitry -- Child Tones
> (Ring mods), Disturb CVs.
>
> I think one problem is that there is different usage of terms -- tone,
> woggle, ring mod, child tones. I am confused! Even the schematics are
> varied in their usage.
>
> The PCBs from Jan have the Ring Mod Out, which is the Ring Mod from
> the
> PLL.
>
> The two Child Tones are the Ring Modded Woggled Tones from two 'Bugs,
> and the Ring Modded Smooth Tones from two 'Bugs.
> To replicate these, it looks like a single XOR would do for each
> channel, or the builder could use CGS RRMs, Yusynth ring mods,
> 1496-based designs on protoboard, whatever.
>
> And for the Disturb Input, we could buffer an external CV, w/ that
> jack
> normalled to the internal stepped CV. I have a buffer PCB that would
> work for this, or a Tellun MUUB-2 could be used for both channels.
> Richard Brewster fades between two Disturb CVs, one of which is
> normalled to the stepped CV, which would be nice. To replicate this we
> would each have to do something on prototype, or make Tellun MUUB-4
> PCBs work.
>
> Richard, Grant, anyone: If we just use a buffer for a single Disturb
> CV, normalled to the internal stepped CV, would negative CVs hurt the
> PLL?
> Richard, is that rectification for protection, or for better external
> CV action?
>
> Feel free to correct me on any of the above.
>
> So you see why this is a big panel question: to mod or not to mod? If
> to mod, in what ways?
>
> Option 3:
> 2U 'Bug as per Jan's PCB.
> 1U 'Bug buddy expansion panel for the dual buggers -- 2 Child Tone
> Outs, Disturb CVs w/ attenuators.
>
> My head hurts.
> Scott Deyo
> The Bridechamber
> contact@...
> www.bridechamber.com
>
> On Mar 15, 2008, at 7:03 AM, Julian Ware wrote:
>
> > I would vote for a dual 'bug with a couple extra
> > features
> >
> > including:
> >
> > Child Tone outputs
> > Ring Modulated Output
> > Disturb Input.
> >
> > I think this would be the about closest you could get
> > to the functionality of the Wiard Wogglebug.
> >
> > Thanks, Julian
> >
> > >> Tone outputs
> > --- Scott Deyo <contact@...> wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks for that! Very good advice, Paul. I'll change
> > > that on the 'Bug.
> > > I didn't even look at the PCB!
> > >
> > > Scott Deyo
> > > The Bridechamber
> > > contact@...
> > > www.bridechamber.com
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mar 14, 2008, at 1:02 PM, krisp wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Scott and all
> > > > That's almost the same as the panels I had made by
> > > Schaeffer picture
> > > > in the files somewhere
> > > > I used on-on-on switches to get the 50%, EG and
> > > LFO on one switch also
> > > > used one of them on the LFO rate switch
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > also I think the you should have the pots in this
> > > order
> > > >
> > > > Rate
> > > > Rate CV
> > > > Cluster
> > > >
> > > > down the left hand side as they are in that order
> > > on the PCB for easy
> > > > mounting to the panel
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Cheers
> > > >
> > > > Paul Darlow
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > >> From: Scott Deyo
> > > >> To: ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com
> > > >> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 3:15 PM
> > > >> Subject: [ModularSynthPanels] sn voice and 'bug
> > > proposed designs
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Hello Group,
> > > >>
> > > >> I have proposed designs in the files section,
> > > under Bridechamber
> > > >> Proposed Designs.
> > > >>
> > > >> There is a 3U SN Voice and a 2U Wogglebug.
> > > >> Both are standard, no-mod designs.
> > > >>
> > > >> The only thing on the SN voice is we will use a
> > > toggle for the range.
> > > >> Center off will leave
> > > >> one cap connected, up will connect a big cap in
> > > parallel, and down
> > > >> will connect a medium
> > > >> cap in parallel. Much easier and less expensive
> > > than a rotary.
> > > >> Also, I used a switch to choose between LFO and
> > > EG PWM and left off
> > > >> the fixed. Is OK or
> > > >> should be try to jam a rotary in there? Or an
> > > attenuator? It will get
> > > >> cramped...
> > > >>
> > > >> I haven't heard much about the 'Bug -- some want
> > > dual 'Bugs w/ Child
> > > >> Tone outputs, but
> > > >> this would make it 4U. I can do that, but I need
> > > to know what people
> > > >> want.
> > > >>
> > > >> Cheers,
> > > >> Scott
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> >
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