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Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] Vintage Keys keyboard

From: ferrograph@...
Date: 2004-04-15

fwiw, chaps, the newer emu "vintage keys" soundset is a big improvement on
the original vintage/classic keys modules, & is available as a box, a keyboard,
or as a rom for the proteus box you already have.
that said, the mellotron sounds are still a bit pony.
$149 + shipping for the rom gets you about 1,000,000 electric pianos, some
synths & farfisas, a really bad flute & some not-quite-right strings. don't even
mention the "brass".

I worked mine up to snuff in a pk6 keyboard (because it's easier to edit on
than the proteus module family, though they are the same board inside). I used
a flute sample from the stock emu set, not the "vintage" one. same with the
brass. & pretty much any string sample takes on a tronny quality if you work on
it....

but all this is in an earlier e-mail from me on this subject, detailing the
routing of tiny amounts of pink noise to the amplifier & pitch, heavy use of
aftertouch to mimic a cmc-10, &&&.
you'll need to set up an extra, non-pitched layer on the proteus to make the
whining noise though.... :-)

it's perfectly possible to adopt the same complex mod-routings on any sound
(& actually, any rompler with good mod capabilities; I did all this with an
alesis box too) to create a "'tron"-anything. the proteus benefits especially
from having user-tuning tables & some other random modulation from the keyboard
(note number) that can be used to great effect on things like filter &
sample-start point.

don't be tempted to add chorus or layer y'r samples, unless you especially
want a sound that's not 'tron-like. turn the velocity control right off. disable
any amplitude enveloping. use the mod wheel to add/remove the
noise>modulation effects, depending how rough you want y'r pseudo-tron to sound.

all my sampler-imitations of mellotron sounds are either straight off 1098 or
have gone via 1/4". I am currently engaged in a project to get all of my 9
tapesets onto flash ram for my proteus modules. so far, the technology has let
me down. bah. but I will persist, as I want to use samples of MY 'tron, not
dave kean's or anyone else's. besides, where else can I find the peter baumann
tapeset or the plucked piano?

duncan/1098 & some emus which I feel like burying in the sand.