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Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] Chamberlin

From: Bruce Daily <pocotron@...>
Date: 2007-11-08

Hey-
About the "Jingle Bells" dogs....
If one were to layer the "Cat" 'tron voice in the
background (as harmony, counterpoint, or the like),
maybe the tune would be improved. Kind of a yin-yang
thing...couldn't hurt... :-)

-Bruce D.


--- Chris Dale <chris.dale@...> wrote:

> Bruce is right about A/B comparison.
>
> I guess the other option is to listen to an album
> full of Mellotron and then an album full of
> Chamberlin right after.
>
> One way of telling is that many of the Chamberlin
> sounds have heavier vibrato where as Mellotron
> sounds don't (e.g. cellos, flutes)
>
> If you're familiar with Mellotron choir then listen
> to Neil Merryweather's "Space Rangers" (if you have
> / can find it) and listen to how the Chamby voices
> (choir) compares.
>
> The close of Marvin Gaye's "Mercy Mercy Me" has the
> Chamby male voices in haunted house mode.
>
> Others for chamby strings / flutes - "Into
> Temptation" from Temple Of Low Men LP. "She Goes On"
> - Saxes / Horns - from "Woodface" LP both from
> Crowded House
>
> For Chamby cellos - Warzawa from David Bowie's "Low"
>
> It's also all over 70's top 40 dentist office
> classics:
>
> Have You Never Been Mellow (Olivia Newton John)
> (Chamby Flutes)
> How Sweet It Is to.....(James Taylor) (Chamby Cellos
> (mixed low)/Strings)
> Afternoon Delight (Starland Vocal Band)
> (Strings)...could also be tron though (where was it
> recorded?)
> Right Time Of The Night (Jennifer Warnes) (Chamby
> Cellos/Strings)
>
> For barking dogs - that irritating Jingle Bell dog
> song is also Chamby. (Not looking forward to hearing
> that for the 1000 billionth time this Christmas)
>
> More can be found on Andy's planet mellotron site of
> course.
>
> The Chamberlin sounds a little closer to the actual
> taped instrument than the tron (it doesn't have the
> "tronny" colour, it lends it's own inflection) so
> sometimes it blends in to be almost unnoticable
> unless it's up in the mix or played distinctively
> like an organ.
> This is especially true of the saxophones.
> But that is it's strength or weakness compared to
> the Mellotron depending on your point of view. To me
> they are two very different instruments.
>
> Also - to my ears - samples of the Chamberlin lack
> the fullness or richness of the original instrument.
> That's also true of the Mellotron samples I've heard
> as well, but with the Chamby it's even more
> noticeable (worse). Like the life and lushness has
> been sucked out somehow. Almost like the difference
> between AM and FM. Again...this is just my personal
> experience. I'm sure there are some half decent
> samples out there (there must be).
>
> In the U.S., during the 70's - many times when it
> says "strings arranged by (keyboard player's name")
> can mean that it was Chamberlin. This presumably was
> to avoid squabbles with the Musician's Union.
>
>
> Okay class dismissed - where is the "Professor" when
> you need him?!! :)
>
>
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>


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