Thanks very much, with regards to samples although the
tron samples available aren't great I do there
weakness is that they sound more like the original
instrument than the a tron does, the mellotron feel is
missing presumably due to the missing imperfections
introduced by an electromechanical system. I think
this really noticeable on choir samples.
Mark
--- Chris Dale <
chris.dale@...> wrote:
> Bruce is right about A/B comparison.
>
> I guess the other option is to listen to an album
> full of Mellotron and then an album full of
> Chamberlin right after.
>
> One way of telling is that many of the Chamberlin
> sounds have heavier vibrato where as Mellotron
> sounds don't (e.g. cellos, flutes)
>
> If you're familiar with Mellotron choir then listen
> to Neil Merryweather's "Space Rangers" (if you have
> / can find it) and listen to how the Chamby voices
> (choir) compares.
>
> The close of Marvin Gaye's "Mercy Mercy Me" has the
> Chamby male voices in haunted house mode.
>
> Others for chamby strings / flutes - "Into
> Temptation" from Temple Of Low Men LP. "She Goes On"
> - Saxes / Horns - from "Woodface" LP both from
> Crowded House
>
> For Chamby cellos - Warzawa from David Bowie's "Low"
>
> It's also all over 70's top 40 dentist office
> classics:
>
> Have You Never Been Mellow (Olivia Newton John)
> (Chamby Flutes)
> How Sweet It Is to.....(James Taylor) (Chamby Cellos
> (mixed low)/Strings)
> Afternoon Delight (Starland Vocal Band)
> (Strings)...could also be tron though (where was it
> recorded?)
> Right Time Of The Night (Jennifer Warnes) (Chamby
> Cellos/Strings)
>
> For barking dogs - that irritating Jingle Bell dog
> song is also Chamby. (Not looking forward to hearing
> that for the 1000 billionth time this Christmas)
>
> More can be found on Andy's planet mellotron site of
> course.
>
> The Chamberlin sounds a little closer to the actual
> taped instrument than the tron (it doesn't have the
> "tronny" colour, it lends it's own inflection) so
> sometimes it blends in to be almost unnoticable
> unless it's up in the mix or played distinctively
> like an organ.
> This is especially true of the saxophones.
> But that is it's strength or weakness compared to
> the Mellotron depending on your point of view. To me
> they are two very different instruments.
>
> Also - to my ears - samples of the Chamberlin lack
> the fullness or richness of the original instrument.
> That's also true of the Mellotron samples I've heard
> as well, but with the Chamby it's even more
> noticeable (worse). Like the life and lushness has
> been sucked out somehow. Almost like the difference
> between AM and FM. Again...this is just my personal
> experience. I'm sure there are some half decent
> samples out there (there must be).
>
> In the U.S., during the 70's - many times when it
> says "strings arranged by (keyboard player's name")
> can mean that it was Chamberlin. This presumably was
> to avoid squabbles with the Musician's Union.
>
>
> Okay class dismissed - where is the "Professor" when
> you need him?!! :)
>
>
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bruce Daily
> To: Mark Pring ; mellotronists@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 4:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] Chamberlin
>
>
> A/B comparison is a problem. I can think of 2
> stark
> album examples of Chamberlin use; "7th Sojourn" by
> the
> Moodies, and "Tidal" by Fiona Apple. Not much
> layering on either one, due to the clarity of the
> instrument. A very dry Chamby is played over the
> final credits of "Boogie Nights". Also, download
> some
> of the Chamby/Tron samples from Dave Kean's
> listening
> room, and one can do quick comparisons. Pretty
> dry, &
> some are from different sources. Same source on
> the 3
> Violins though, so it can easily be compared.
> -Bruce D.
> M400 #1221
>
> --- Mark Pring <markpringnz@...> wrote:
>
> > With my aural ability, I should probably keep
> quiet
> > but I would suggest comparing the string sounds
> on
> > the
> > Mitchell Froom produced Richard Thompson CDs (
> > especially Grey Walls on Rumour and Sigh, I hope
> > they
> > are not mandolins, it is definitely a
> chamberlin)
> > and
> > the M300 strings on Barclay James Harvest Live.
> >
> > Mark
> > --- gino wong <wonggster@...> wrote:
> >
> > > I don't think I can tell the difference
> between a
> > > Mellotron and a
> > > Chamberlin but I think I would like to educate
> > > myself.
> > >
> > > What would be a good a/b test ?
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
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