What were the mechanics and how practical or loopy were the loop tron
or trons that T Dream used back in the day ?
The mixer trick is the most practical way to implement 10cc voice
choir thing becasue you'll never have enough machines, mike stands and
pencils to do it otherwise.
gw
On 5/2/07, Jack Younger <e4103s@...> wrote:
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> Hello!
> This is a bit late in the game, but I only get to
> this page every so often lately...
> As far as looped and tracked "10cc" vocals, it's
> really quite easy and I've used it at the studio many
> times for a pad of breathless vocals.
> My method is to track about five to ten seconds of
> each note you want to a 1/4" or 1/2" 2-track. You
> can maximize by recording seperate notes one at a time
> on each track. Cut and loop it. Play the loop back
> to two tracks of your multitrack and record it through
> the whole song. Repeat the process as many times as
> you have track space for and then bounce the whole kit
> and kaboodle to two tracks for stereo, running the
> faders according to the required performance.
> The result is striking. I call it
> "create-a-tron" and it can be used for many different
> sound sources.
> Good luck!
> -Jack Younger (EMI 103S -the Bastard 'Tron)
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> --- chris.dale@... wrote:
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> > I don't know about cutting the tape and using it as
> > a loop.
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> > I do know that they overdubbed around 100+ voices
> > and that they played the faders for the volume
> > swells in that song.
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> > And of course, theyre using the Gizmotron for the
> > cello sound and background noise as well. You can
> > hear that same noise on the track Lazy Ways from the
> > How Dare You album. It sounds interesting without
> > the choir voices.
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> >
> > Chris
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> > Hi, all-
> > Thought I would throw another wrench in the fire
> > (probably replete with erroneous 70's memories,
> > too).
> > It seems I read once that 10cc used a large
> > multitrack
> > recorder to create a playable choir of their own
> > voices on the song "I'm Not In Love". Once the
> > vocal
> > tracks were laid down on the same area of tape,
> > the
> > section was cut out, and spliced in a loop. It was
> > loaded back on the machine (with appropriate
> > tension),
> > and played off a mixing console using the solo
> > buttons
> > as a keyboard. I don't know where I read this, but
> > it
> > stuck in my mind for years. Maybe a similar idea
> > was
> > used by those clever Germans.
> >
> > Bruce Daily
> > M400 1221
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> > P.S. I admit to playing my 'tron "solo" in my
> > living
> > room (no mixer yet). So far my friends just smile,
> > scratch their heads, and mumble something about
> > "could
> > be done digitally". Oh well, what do they know?
> > I'm
> > happy.
> >
> > --- charel196 <charel196@...> wrote:
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> > > let's not forget the "Singing Keyboard" from the
> > > 1930s, which was a tron/Chamberlin idea
> > > using movie film as the medium and light to read
> > it
> > > a/la Orchestron. I'd love to hear any
> > > examples of it....somebody back then had to have
> > > made a recording....
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> > >
> > > --- In Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com, "Andy
> > > Thompson" <andy.thompson@...> wrote:
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> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: NormLeete@...
> > > > To: Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2007 11:18 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] Re: Solo trons
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > In a message dated 22/04/2007 23:02:29 GMT
> > > Standard Time, andy.thompson@...
> > > writes:
> > > > an early European one-off attempt to use the
> > > > Chamberlin/Mellotron idea, with infinite
> > > sustain
> > > > I thought it was a modified Mellotron...
> > > >
> > > > Norm
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> > > >
> > > > Norm
> > > >
> > > > What little I've been able to find out about
> > it
> > > seems to indicate that it was built in the
> > > '50s! It also sounds unbelievably complex to
> > play,
> > > making the 'MkII rhythms' technique
> > > dound like a doddle. :-) It allegedly resides in
> > > 'a west German museum' now, so if
> > > ANYONE has any idea which...
> > > >
> > > > Andy T.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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