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Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Ground Plane

From: Hans Wedemeyer <hans@...>
Date: 2002-08-09

John,
You are telling me you can't find a board shop to do two sided 4"X6 with
through plated holes and solder mask and silk screen (one side) for
$15...... Well I just made 30 boards 5"X6" with all that, and 19 IC's
(8x28pin 8X14pin 3x3pin) my cost $10.00 includes artwork tooling and
setup fee. No extra charge for different size drills....

How many of these 4X6 are you planning to make ? I can get you a price.
hansw


crankorgan wrote:

> Hans,
> I have the schematic, I have finished boards that I
> have beem milling. I stopped selling controller boards do
> to cost. I was hoping to get single sided boards made for
> about $15. The boards are 4" X 6" and I used every trick
> in the world to get all the parts on the board. The board
> only has a few jumpers. When I tried routing programs two
> years ago, they would create a two sided board.
> That's when I started milling my boards. In order
> to get boards made cheap, I have to do a large run. Thanks
> for your help, I will give it another try. I have learned so
> many programs since my BBS days, I feel like my head is going
> to pop!
>
>
> John
>
>
>
> --- In Homebrew_PCBs@y..., Hans Wedemeyer <hans@c...> wrote:
> > John,
> > Yes you can. EAGLE will allow you to do layouts without a schematic.
>
> > It is a little more involved when you don't have a schematic, but
> easy
> > anyway. ( shame on you, you should have a schematic and EAGLE will
> check
> > the board for you and dozens of ways... ! )
> > ( I just did my first board without and schematic and it works
> fine )
> >
> > Anyway, you must NAME each pad that needs to be connected to GND
> with
> > the same name GND (for example)
> >
> > As you name them you should notice a thin ratsnest wire appear
> between
> > each pad that has the same name. These are called air-wires. You
> can
> > use them to manually route the connection or auto-route. Anyway, all
>
> > these pads that have the same name will be connected to the
> polygon, and
> > EAGLE make thermals for you. When you are finished with the layout,
> > place a polygon (not rectangle) on over the entire board and the ( I
>
> > forgot the most important things ! ) press the RATSNEST and it will
> fill
> > the entire polygon. Then NAME the POLYGON with the NAME command and
> > enter the NET name for Ground (normally GND) and it will ask if you
> want
> > to connect it to GND click OK and it will connect all Grounds to the
>
> > polygon ...
> >
> > Hans W
> >
> >
> > crankorgan wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Hans,
> > > Can I put the ground plan in after I do all the other
> > > traces, or should I do a section at a time? I am drawing the
> > > board direct. It is not coming from a diagram made with
> > > Eagle.
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In Homebrew_PCBs@y..., Hans Wedemeyer <hans@c...> wrote:
> > > > John,
> > > > With EAGLE I add a polygon and it fills all available space. The
>
> > > next
> > > > step is to give the polygon a NET name, and naming it GND will
> > > connect
> > > > it to Ground... ( I assume your are using GND as the ground net
> of
> > > > course)
> > > > This is what the end result looks like http://hans-
> w.com/rpm_pcb.jpg
> > >
> > > > Hans W
> > > >
> > > > crankorgan wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Gang,
> > > > > I was wondering if any of you have done a ground plane
>
> > > > > on a board. When I mill boards I can use the surrounding
> copper
> > > > > as a ground. With Eagle and other programs I can't find a way
> to
> > > > > keep the extra copper around the traces. I know I can use the
> > > other
> > > > > side of the board for a ground. I really wanted to stick with
> a
> > > > > single sided boards.
> > > > > Regards
> > > > >
> > > > > John
> > > > >
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