No, Phil. The answer is regretfully no. I agree about the cost and I
never tried his paper thinking that my pain level starts at 50 cents.
There are lots of companies that make money on 'specialty papers',
for example www.posjet.com -his stuff is not unique but the price is
high. Just an example. It would be great to buy a yard of paper and
sell it as inch-sized bits. Mike
--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "Phil" <phil1960us@y...> wrote:
> actually, I was asking if your dad might know of a non-water based
> solvent for dextrine in the hope that the solvent would not wrinkle
> the paper. I wasn't asking if he could run off a batch of paper
for
> us.
>
> I doubt that pulsar pays even $0.10 per sheet, maybe the solution
is
> to find their source.
>
> --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "mikezcnc" <eemikez@c...>
wrote:
> > Phil,
> >
> > He cannot, that's the point. They use water based dextrines and
> > machine weaving the paper are the size of a small city block. The
> > pressure on the paper tape 20+ feet wode and miles long keeps it
> > straight until it makes its routs thru different drums. Temp and
> > humidity control is the key and such papers being for special
> purpose
> > are not cheap either. The only dextrine based paper that works is
> > from pulsar at $1 a sheet, then I tried couple other special
> purpose
> > papers for transfer of T-shirt images-expensive. the cheapest
paper
> > for that worked for me in H200 is that Staples paper we talked
> > already about. I mean, it costs 50c for the lucky ones in US.
> > I've been baking bread since 1989 and it is after 13 years when I
> > started getting a grip on baking. What can be simpler: water,
> flower
> > and yeast. There are million books on the subject and 99% are not
> > worth paper they are printed on. I'll stick to H200 with Staples
> for
> > now (0.032"_.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> > -- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "Phil" <phil1960us@y...>
wrote:
> > > Maybe your dad could help on this - is there a non-water based
> > > solvent for dextrine? It seems like water was the problem.
> > >
> > > --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "mikezcnc" <eemikez@c...>
> > wrote:
> > > > Grant,
> > > >
> > > > He thought it was crazy to attempt making a dextrine coated
> paper
> > > at
> > > > home. I tried it several times and agree with that: the paper
> is
> > > all
> > > > shrunk up and there is now way for a hobbyst to make it flat
> and
> > > > straight. Pulling out a home made dextrine paper out of a
laser
> > > > printer is a nightmare I will never forget. I admit that idea
> > > behind
> > > > it is simple but the problem is to dry the coated paper so it
> > looks
> > > > like paper you and me know. Mike
> > > >
> > > > --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "grantfair2001"
> > > > <grant.fair@s...> wrote:
> > > > > Mike - I'm not sure why your dad thought you were crazy,
> after
> > all
> > > > > someone had already made the paper with dextrin. Did he say
> why
> > he
> > > > > thought you would not succeed?
> > > > >
> > > > > I didn't realize you had already had a go at this and your
> > > > experience
> > > > > is good to know about. What kind of Dextrin did you use?
> > > > >
> > > > > Grant
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "mikezcnc"
> <eemikez@c...>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > Grant,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > My father is a chemical engineer who spent 40 years in
> paper
> > > > > > industry. When I found out 6 moths ago that Pulsar used
> > dextrin
> > > > > > coated paper I knew I would have a product. I spent time
> and
> > > > money
> > > > > > making such paper trying all kinds of tricks (my father
> told
> > me
> > > > it
> > > > > > was insane) and came to conclusion that it cannot be made
> at
> > > home
> > > > but
> > > > > > it is a great way to quickly learn how clean the laser
> > printer.
> > > > At
> > > > > > that time I decided to forget about the TT and
concentrated
> > on
> > > UV
> > > > > > exposure with excellent results, coating my own boards.
> Then
> > > came
> > > > > > along the Staples paper and the laminator and we all know
> the
> > > > rest of
> > > > > > it- I became a TT convert.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > John Kleinbauer from www.kleinbauer.com, a small CNC
> machine
> > > > site,
> > > > > > used a fantastic comparison to baking. I like that
example
> > > > because I
> > > > > > happen to have baked breads for more than 10 years.
> Yesterday
> > I
> > > > baked
> > > > > > the world's worst bread! I must have been tired.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As far as regular TT goes, the one that requires ironing,
> > there
> > > > are
> > > > > > obviously two variables difficult to control (that come
to
> > > mind):
> > > > > > temperature and pressure (we know that). But keeping
> pressure
> > > at
> > > > the
> > > > > > max allows us to vary only temperature to achieve good
> > results.
> > > > > > I had 70% success rate when ironing and I have 100% using
a
> > > > > > laminator. Yes, I live in US and yes I took a second
> mortgage
> > > to
> > > > buy
> > > > > > the laminator at Staples... Mike