> I found out that Staedler sells a pigmented ink for piezo printers
> including Epson.
>
> <http://www.staedtler-inkjet.com/>
>
> No, it's probably not the same as the ink in their Lumocolor 313.
I found that too but have similar suspicions. they also sell ink for
refilling
plotter pens which could, or could not be the same as OHP ink..
Maybe they do answer to such a question honestly if one tries...
>
> I'm having an extraordinarily hard time finding refill ink for
> Staedtler. I found it from Higgins for $3.16 for 1 oz (about 28ml?)
> for $3.19, pigmented waterproof inks. Cheaper than inkjet ink! May be
> too thick, though.
29.573 ml is one fluid oz...
There are many brands in europe too, like Edding and so on.
I have tried a black edding and it didn't work. however this was one with
very strange ink.. i think the edding 3000 was somewhat like your "sharpie"
back in the times of hand drawing. i am sure that at least then it could
withstand
at least ferric cloride... But they had to change the solvents and stuff...
>
> http://www.artsuppliesonline.com/catalog.cfm?cata_id=1848
>
> Rapidograph is a bit more at $3.70 for 3/4 oz. Says it's waterproof
> and dries on all surfaces.
>
> http://www.artsuppliesonline.com/catalog.cfm?cata_id=1857
'n other one.. i definitely did not try a rapidograph ink.
I think they are available here... (somewhere)
>
> This black refill says it's free-flowing and waterproof. $2.95 for a
> 2.5 oz bottle.
>
> http://www.artsuppliesonline.com/catalog.cfm?cata_id=1843
>
> All their ink refills:
> http://www.artsuppliesonline.com/catalog.cfm?cata_id=1832
>
> Need to find Staedtler ink.
>
> Found a part number: 488 50-2 Searching Staedtler.CA for 488 50 turns
> up nothing.
>
> Searching Staedtler.de and Staedtler.co.uk shows up, in 30ml bottles.
interesting, double the amount of the 15ml bottles i get here....
>
> Intensive Froogle searching turns up nothing.
>
> Google searches all seem to end on the other side of the pond. It
> doesn't seem to be available in bottles in North America!
>
> Success! 2.75 pounds
> <http://www.smartshopper.com.cy/cgi-bin/gold/category.cgi?category=search&item=OSMHREST-003&type=store&template=1x9>
that's UK again....
It really looks very much like this refill is hard to get in the US..
Well, i could offer to send one bottle for experimenting but that would
not at all
solve the problem on a long term basis...
I suggest going out there in a good office shop and simply try it out.
there were shops which had the pens on display so that you could try
them...
i do not think they would kick you out if you do a bit of artwork on a pcb
there...
just write down the company and color.
then dump it in etchant and record the process.. (make photos of unetched
board
too to know which disappeared completely)
see which lasts longest and then buy a refill from this company...
What about all this pigments?
i know this are little pieces of color, but hey, we do not really need
coloration.
what holds the pigments together? is there a binder with them or....?
Do you think staedtler red is pigmented? i found no such reference..
do you know how i could thest this without a very high magnifying
microscope?
i would not expect the staedtler red to have problems with fitting through
(after all it comes out through this felt stuff).
i know some edding pens have a slotted nylon tip, and have very large
pigments..
I will try to see some ink through a cheap plastic scope, no idea if i
will see anything at all.
ST
>
>
> Steve