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Subject: Re: Standard inkjet inks for etch resist?(yeeeehaaa))

From: "Steve" <alienrelics@...>
Date: 2004-03-15

--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, Stefan Trethan
<stefan_trethan@g...> wrote:
> On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 17:25:49 -0000, Ted Inoue <ted@s...>
> wrote:
>
> > ah yes, after searching I see your posts and discussion.
> > Hopefully someone will try this out. I have an old epson in a box that
> > maybe I can sacrifice.
> > Anybody know where I could get some of that staedtler red in bulk?
> > I've not yet researched this so still need to Google it...
> > -Ted
> >
>
>
> I only know i can have it in 15mL refil for some ????? 3 eur????.
> This is not much but it will refill a few pens (and it would print a
few
> pcbs.)
>
> I have not seen in in bigger quantities. The inks of the other
companies
> can be
> had in big bottles (500mL) off he shelf (100mL and so on also..).. i do
> not remember
> the price but it is more economical...
>
> However the other pens i tried are by far not as good as the
staedtler red.
> (I have not tried all colors).
>
> You can see the staedtler refill here:
>
<http://www.staedtler.de/e4wstaedtler/central/resource.nsf/imgref/6176F6F76F2F425FC1256D12003EDA54/$FILE/487_17.jpg>
>
> You can find it in the USA at www.staedtler.us
>
> http://www.staedtler.co.uk for UK.
>
> and of course .de in germany and .co.at in austria.
>
> http://www.staedtler.com.au is australia.
>
> They might know who sells their products in your country.

Wierd. Staedler.us does not respond so I looked around the Canadian
website instead.

I found out that Staedler sells a pigmented ink for piezo printers
including Epson.

<http://www.staedtler-inkjet.com/>

No, it's probably not the same as the ink in their Lumocolor 313.

I'm having an extraordinarily hard time finding refill ink for
Staedtler. I found it from Higgins for $3.16 for 1 oz (about 28ml?)
for $3.19, pigmented waterproof inks. Cheaper than inkjet ink! May be
too thick, though.

http://www.artsuppliesonline.com/catalog.cfm?cata_id=1848

Rapidograph is a bit more at $3.70 for 3/4 oz. Says it's waterproof
and dries on all surfaces.

http://www.artsuppliesonline.com/catalog.cfm?cata_id=1857

This black refill says it's free-flowing and waterproof. $2.95 for a
2.5 oz bottle.

http://www.artsuppliesonline.com/catalog.cfm?cata_id=1843

All their ink refills:
http://www.artsuppliesonline.com/catalog.cfm?cata_id=1832

Need to find Staedtler ink.

Found a part number: 488 50-2 Searching Staedtler.CA for 488 50 turns
up nothing.

Searching Staedtler.de and Staedtler.co.uk shows up, in 30ml bottles.

Intensive Froogle searching turns up nothing.

Google searches all seem to end on the other side of the pond. It
doesn't seem to be available in bottles in North America!

Success! 2.75 pounds
<http://www.smartshopper.com.cy/cgi-bin/gold/category.cgi?category=search&item=OSMHREST-003&type=store&template=1x9>


Steve