Tony,
What you did was a stunt! I have a tax number and I keep records
of every sale. But I am nonprofit. I retired at 37 and I am now an
old man of 50. I share my plans and ideas with other. I charge a small
fee for my plans. I use the money to buy more parts. I work 18 hours
a day 7 days a week. I love what I am doing. It's my life and I will
do what I want! So if anyone want to talk Milling Circuit boards I am
here for that! I am not a businessman, they make money!
John
--- In Homebrew_PCBs@y..., Tony Jeffree <tony@j...> wrote:
> John -
>
> Rather an extreme reaction when all I was doing was offering you
sound (and
> free!) advice. Don't knock it. Ask any successful salesman & he/she
will
> tell you the same thing.
>
> At 10:33 17/04/2002 +0000, you wrote:
> >Tony,
> > I don't run a company. This is a hobby! I offer my plans to
> >people who want them.
>
> You advertise stuff for sale. You have customers. You sell them
stuff. You
> accept their money. Ergo, you run a business. Maybe not
incorporated, but
> certainly a business. The IRS will certainly view it as a business
> (assuming of course that you're a good boy & tell them about the
income);
> so will anyone seeing your website & noticing that you charge for
stuff.
>
> >When people ask lots of questions, seem
> >unsure, or pull a stunt. I don't want to get involved with them.
> >I learned from people like YOU! You sent cash in the envelope. You
> >did not send the correct amount. I shipped anyway.
>
> You're right - I sent you a $20 bill (or was it 2 tens?), not $18,
> anticipating that the extra $2 would cover the additional overseas
postage,
> as your $18 price already included US postage & didn't specify the
extra
> for overseas. I can do the sums - you ended up ∗in pocket∗, rather
than
> ∗out of pocket∗ on that deal. Just shows how easy it is for you to
> misrepresent a situation by leaving out vital information. Having
seen that
> happen in your interactions with me, I have no reason to take your
version
> of your interactions with this other Canadian guy at face value
either.
>
> >Then you started
> >whining you got robbed.
>
> If you mean I gave you feedback on what I considered to be the low
> value-for-money that I had received, that is true. I wouldn't
describe that
> as whining. Particularly as I didn't ask for a refund - I wrote
that one
> off to bad experience.
>
> >So now I am very careful who I sell to. Now
> >when somebody pulls your stunt! I send the money back.
>
> I notice you didn't bother to offer me a refund though, despite the
fact
> that I was obviously unhappy with what you had sent me. Perhaps if
you had,
> we wouldn't have ended up having this conversation.
>
> >In over a year
> >and a half I have only had one complaint. That was from YOU! They
rest
> >are from people who have not bought anything! They want me to cater
> >to they long list of questions and conditions. This is a Hobby! I
am
> >very busy here!
>
> If you don't want the hassle, don't go into business - be it in a
small way
> or not. You could save yourself all the hassle you are complaining
about by
> doing what many others, including myself, do - put their plans etc.
up on
> their websites at no charge, for the benefit of all.
>
> You can't have it both ways.
>
> Best regards,
> Tony