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Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Toner transfer paper from Hong Kong - poor packaging

From: Kerry Koppert <kkoppert@...>
Date: 2013-08-21

On 21/08/2013 9:20 p.m., Robin Whittle wrote:
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> Please see this page:
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> http://www.firstpr.com.au/temp/toner-transfer-paper/
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> which has photos. Below is the text.
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> The paper has a thin relatively soft, shiny coating. My guess is that
> it is polyethylene, since it melts, smokes and smells the same as a
> polyethylene bag when touched with a soldering iron (after I washed most
> of the paper away with water. Also, it softens a little with Shellite
> (lighter fluid).
>
> I think this is the paper as used by Dave and documented in a PDF file
> by Rick Sparber at:
>
> http://rick.sparber.org/electronics/el.htm
>
> Copper Etching with Laser Printed Artwork, by David Pickering
>
> I wouldn't have thought that this material was suitable for laser
> printing. It is very shiny. I will try it at some stage on the least
> favourite of my Brother laser printers.
>
> I wrote to the seller pointing him to the page and suggesting that they
> pack the sheets in a cardboard tube.
>
> - Robin
>
> The heat toner transfer paper from Hong Kong eBay seller
> http://myworld.ebay.com/shcfstore is for sale at:
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/170900415631
>
> It is inexpensive at 10 sheets for USD$1.96 including shipping to most
> countries.
>
> However the delivery was slow and the sheets arrived tightly bound in
> bubblewrap, with no mechanism to stop them being creased in transit.
>
> I purchased these on the afternoon of Tuesday 2013-07-30 (Australian and
> Hong Kong time).
>
> The China Post sticker was dated Sunday "2013.08.04.20". The customs
> declaration was simply "PC Tools" with no weight or value, so it is
> possible that Australian Customs X-rayed it to find out what was inside.
>
> The package arrived here (a Melbourne suburb) on Wednesday 2013-08-21.
>
> I have the sheets wrapped backwards around a tube now, in an attempt to
> straighten them enough that they might go through a laser printer.
>
> Before I did this, I took some photos of the creases and overall shape
> of the paper.
>
> I guess I will be able to get it to work, but I am not convinced that
> the delicate business of toner transfer from the drum to the coated
> paper, then then having this stay stay stable through the fuser roller,
> will work properly where the paper is not entirely flat. There are some
> creases.
>
> Other sellers provide 50 sheet packs, which would presumably arrive
> without creases, such as:
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/151102569238
>
> I searched eBay for the words: heat toner transfer paper
>
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> R
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If you ever figure out how to use this stuff, let me know. I ordered
some a while back, I had no trouble printing to it , but just couldn't
get the pattern off the paper onto the board.



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