Kevin,
All of those pumps have stainless steel metal shafts, who impose a problem for etching. However, those units are the kind that have been used for spray etching. They often need replacement in a regular basis. I do not know if someone could point out us for some kind of magnetic drive pump that it is entirely of plastic in their conducts with the fluid. Also, someone did comment that earlier Kepro spray etchers had modified Little Giant pumps, I think that modifying the metal shaft and impeller with another of plastic. I am not sure about how to accomplish that.
Regards.
--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Impson <internetgiest@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Guy's,
>
> Is there any info on how the CP1-115 pump handles the different etchants?
>
> I had started to build a spray etcher and found a pump from Little Giant Pumps that would handle medium power etchant, but the pump was over $100.00.
>
> Do you know if this pump will handle the FeCl and such, for sure? Because you can get them for under $40.00 easy on the net.
>
> If the pump will handle it I get out the spray unit and I'll be ordering the pump ASAP, the spray arms and such no problem.
>
> Also, for those wondering where to get the diffuser, blank low thread screen printer screens, I checked it out way back with water, does the job nicely.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Kevin I.
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: jcarlosmor <jcarlosmor@...>
> To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 7:55 PM
> Subject: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Kepro bench top spray ectcher
>
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> Â
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> It is hard to know the real amount. The spray etchers of that time only include some a few specifications.
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> The Kepro BTE-202 and BTE-201 used a Little Giant pump model CP-6500, Product #540004. That part is not manufactured anymore. It is replaced by model CP1-115.
>
> The original CP-6500 has the following specifications:
> PRODUCT #540004, MODEL CP-6500
> FOR COOLERS UP TO 6500 C.F.M.
> 115v. 60 Hz, .85 amps, 1 PH
>
> The new model available is:
> PRODUCT #540005, MODEL CP1-115
> 1/70 HP, 115/127v., Capacity 307 GPH@1', 5000-7500 CFM
>
> According to specifications and graph table (which appears in the Little Giant catalog) the newest pump moves about 300 Galons per hour, for a typical 50 cms of head above the sump of the etchant to the spray bars.
>
> Those figure may be considered with care, since I remember that none of the spray etchers manufacturers specify that measure in their units.
>
> --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "Andrew Volk" <amvweb@> wrote:
> >
> > What is the volume of etchant that has to be pumped, say in Gal/Min?
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com]
> > On Behalf Of jcarlosmor
> > Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 11:37 AM
> > To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Kepro bench top spray ectcher
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hello Tom,
> >
> > Thank you very much for your detailed information. I agree with you that the
> > pumps in this unit get damaged very soon, and need continous replacement.
> >
> > Also, I am planning just to build a new spray etching tank form scratch. In
> > the web there are some pages about that. I believe some detailed
> > construction plans are in the "instructables" site, and some german web page
> > also details construction, but for a central rotary spindler etch machine.
> >
> > Most etching tanks of the 80s were made of PVC, but Polypropylene seems also
> > a good choice now. ¿Does anyone knows if PP can be cemented, like PVC, and
> > how well can whistand the FeCl and CuCl? Most PP tanks are welded instead.
> >
> > The beauty of the old Kepro spray developers amd spray etching tanks was
> > their simplicity. No sophisticated noozles, no adjusting pipes, etc. Just a
> > tank with very simple spray bars, the mesh diffusers, and even at ambient
> > temperature your double sided 12x12 inch PCB was ready in a less than five
> > minutes.
> >
> > Tom, some photos of your Kepro spray system also would be very helpful for
> > everyone interested in building their own DIY spray etch. I understand that
> > the construction of such device may not be worth the time and money for the
> > ocassional DIY PCB maker with only a few PCBs per month, but if you have
> > some space in your basement, and often you make PCBs in a regular basis, the
> > addition of a spray etch system it would be very helpful.
> >
> > Regards.
> >
> > --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:Homebrew_PCBs%40yahoogroups.com> , "twb8899" <twb8899@> wrote:
> > >
> > > In my last message I tried to show how the spray manifold drill pattern
> > would look but it didn't post correctly. This time I'll add some hyphens so
> > it spaces properly and I think you will get the idea.
> > >
> > > -----------------------------------------------------
> > > O------O------O------O------O------O------O------O
> > >
> > > ---O------O------O------O------O------O------O
> > >
> > > O------O------O------O------O------O------O------O
> > > -----------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > If this doesn't post correctly I'll make a drawing or take some photos and
> > post them later.
> > >
> > > Tom
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:Homebrew_PCBs%40yahoogroups.com> , "jcarlosmor" <jcarlosmor@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hello Tom,
> > > >
> > > > I had obtained a used Kepro bench-top etcher. It is a very old machine
> > (mid-80s I believe), but I had seen those machines in action many years ago
> > and the performance is outstanding for fast etching of batch PCBs.
> > > >
> > > > The problem is that some parts are missing and/or require fixing. The
> > two spray bars are lost. That is no problem because I can buy, cut, and
> > cement 1/2" PVC as the originals manifolds. The problem is that I do not
> > remember how many holes were in every spray bar. I remember that the hole
> > size is about 1/16" ¿Am I correct?, since I used a drill bit of this size to
> > clean of debris in the spray bars in those etchers many years ago. Do you
> > recall how many holes, what distance between them, and the angle of up/down
> > orientation in your Kepro etcher? I know that these details are very
> > important to obtain the maximum performance of these units.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you very much in advance for any help.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:Homebrew_PCBs%40yahoogroups.com> , "twb8899" <twb8899@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Grant,
> > > > >
> > > > > You could try using one of the Little Giant pumps. I haven't bought
> > > > > one of these pumps in years but they used to cost about $25 from WW
> > > > > Grainger. Kepro uses this small pump in their etchers. They modify
> > > > > the pump by removing the metal impeller and installing one made from
> > > > > PVC plastic. There are two pumps in the machine, one for each side.
> > > > > The manifold is made from 1/2" CPVC pipe. The pipe has about twenty
> > > > > or so small holes drilled to give the spray pattern. A piece of
> > > > > plastic window screen hangs between the manifold (spray bar) and the
> > > > > part to be etched. This screen is used to disperse the spray pattern
> > > > > across the board for even etching. It works pretty good with 1 ounce
> > > > > copper taking about 4 minutes to etch with ferric chloride.
> > > > >
> > > > > Tom
> > > > >
> > > >
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