On Thu, 15 Mar 2012 17:21:12 -0000, you wrote:
>I had wondered about the photo etch method and if it had this problem.
if a laser produces the pattern, yes. If an inkjet, no.
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>The mesh method is mentioned - do you mean use a very fine mesh pattern for the solid ground plane? I'm not sure how to do this in Eagle or ExpressPCB programs. Sounds like a good idea - mesh fine enough it "looks" solid on transfer?
Nope, charge tends to congregate at the edges of any pattern. A large
black area will be darker at the edges with a laser printer. Inkjet,
nope.
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>With the normal transfer, the ground plane "looks" like it has good toner transfer - very black. BUT, on etching it doesn't look so good with many tiny holes showing.
if that's toner transfer, welcome to the club.
If you can do a mesh, then you're using a lot of fine lines, so the
holes are deliberate. That'll work.
You can control the size of the holes, but too small, and you don't
equalize the charge enough.
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>Thanks for the suggestions and info - I might have to try photo - etching. That does seem to have better results.
Depends on how the master pattern is laid down.
Harvey
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>Ken H>
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>--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, Malcolm Parker-Lisberg <mparkerlisberg@...> wrote:
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>> Use a mesh pattern, rather than solid. It happens because the electrostatic charge migrates from large areas.
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>> Does anyone have problems getting large ground plane areas to stay good 'n solid with copper? I've been having a bit of problem with large ground plane areas using toner transfer method. If I do a board without a large ground plane, the traces look good - trace size ranges from .015" to .050" or so.
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>> I clean copper good, wash with alcohol. Toner transfer at 360ºF with a laminator using Pulsar toner transfer paper, then etch in HCl and H2O2. I used the green film last board and it seems a bit better, but not sure about large areas yet.
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>> Just checking to see if anyone else has this problem, or maybe found a solution...... or maybe it's just me?
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>> Thanks for any guidance and suggestions.
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