I am a degreed electrical engineer who has done both analog and digitial
design for over 30 years. There is nothing to be debated here, you must
use ESD protection with any semiconductors or other ESD sensitive
components - end of discussion.
http://www.linkedin.com/in/petebasel On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 9:09 PM, Steve <steve65@...> wrote:
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> Hi all,
>
> Part of my motivation for seeking advice regarding ESD practices is the
> failure of a circuit I constructed a year or two ago. It had a handful
> of 74ACT- something-or-other latches on it. The PCB functioned as
> expected for a good while. Following some interfacing with other PCB's
> and the associated handling, connecting, disconnecting, etc., the latch
> PCB failed. I eventually determined that two of the latches were bad,
> replaced all of them and was back in business.
>
> Discussions with the engineer who designed the circuit revealed that I
> was not the first to go down this path. The engineer, involved in this
> type of work professionally and well experienced, thought my and other
> failures to be ESD related. I take that advice as his best guess based
> on his experience -- I'm pretty sure he never examined one of the failed
> latches with an electron microscope to confirm ESD issues. That incident
> made me somewhat more ESD conscious than previously and hence my
> questions of this group.
>
> Another aspect to consider is the time and test equipment needed to
> trouble shoot a non-working PCB, some of which can be pretty complex.
> I'd rather not take the time to trouble shoot and I may not have the
> signal generator, scope, logic analyzer, or whatever to effectively find
> the problem. Taking a modicum of ESD precautions seems a reasonable
> tradeoff, especially if I already have the ESD workbench mat and wrist
> strap.
>
> At any rate, this is (for me) an interesting thread from the perspective
> that I am not a professional PCB design/build guy, nor am I particularly
> well experienced in at-home construction techniques. I'm learning. I
> appreciate the advice and thoughts offered.
>
> Steve K8JQ
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> On 12/24/2011 12:50 PM, AlienRelics wrote:
> > Amend that to unvarnished wood floors. ;') Asphalt tiles or ceramic
> tiles are good insulators.
> >
> > I do agree with what you are saying.
> >
> > To paraphrase another poster, I've never been hit by lightning but I
> still won't go swimming or kite flying during a storm. On the other hand,
> I've been out backpacking and I don't bring lightning rods or a Faraday
> cage with me.
> >
> > Steve Greenfield AE7HD
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> > --- InHomebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "Boman33"<boman33@...> wrote:
> >> I am running production lines and supervising two engineering labs and
> the
> >> ESD problems exist. What you and others fail to take into account is the
> >> environment.
> >>
> >> If someone is in South Florida without air-conditioning= high humidity,
> tile
> >> floors, and walking barefoot, there is never going to be a problem. Then
> >> someone up north in the winter with low humidity, carpeted floors, and
> >> rubber soled shoes, there will be lots of problems.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hobbyists need to be realistic and practical without overdoing it in
> either
> >> direction.
> >>
> >> Bertho
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