Hello Miles, thank you for your input. As you probably guessed, I am an old
Newbie.... Good to see all the helpful advice from others that have
perfected methods before me.
With the terrific help coming from this site, I will soon be ready to have
my first crack at making a test board. Using things like different line
thicknesses and clearances.
I have a laminator that I have used over the years, oddly enough, for
laminating. Will give it a try when I get to that stage.
Kind regards,
Rod
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Presentation paper is what I use.
I think of it was blank magazine paper. Magazine paper works well for me
too, but using the blank stuff makes it a bit easier to see what's where.
Also, with some of my ground planes, you can see the text of the paper on
the final etched board.
I imagine it also helps line things up when doing 2 sided, though my
experience with that is limited.
I much prefer a laminator over the iron. my results improved a lot when I
got one. you should be able to find one new for $25 or $30.
I've also read (and perhaps someone can comment on this) of a trick to
further improve things. I haven't tried it yet, but it makes sense.
After you've removed the paper, but before etch, bake it in the oven. I
interpret this as allowing the toner to remelt and even out a bit. take
advantage of cohesion.
Miles
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wrote:
>
> Sorry if this has been answered before but so far I have read that people
use shiny paper. What type of paper seems to work good for the toner
transfer method? I was thinking something in-expensive like magazine paper.
>
> --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Homebrew_PCBs%40yahoogroups.com> , Piers Goodhew <piers@> wrote:
> >
> > G'day Rod,
> >
> > I use the edge of the iron - no holes and more pressure (plus various
passes of the flat of it - if you're moving the holes don't have much
effect). If you're doing any sort of volume, I think a laminator would make
a lot of sense. But I'm not doing volume. The fact that our generic toner
cart's getting low is causing a lot more trouble than
lack-of-stick-to-the-board.
> >
> > PG
> >
> > On 19/05/2011, at 2:56 PM, Rodney Jackson wrote:
> >
> > > G'day John,
> > > I have thought of using this method, the problem is, I am unable to
find an
> > > old flat iron (as different from steam iron)
> > > I know not to use water in a steam iron but the things these days have
too
> > > many holes in the soul plate.
> > > Suppose I could still use one and keep using an ironing motion to
cover the
> > > board completely with even amounts of heat.
> > > Will look on the past posts and check out your photo's.
> > >
> > > Thank you for your reply John
> > >
> > > Rod
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
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> > > On Behalf Of John Clonts
> > > Sent: Thursday, 19 May 2011 10:42 AM
> > > To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Homebrew_PCBs%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Newbie
> > >
> > > Hi Rod,
> > >
> > > I'm brand new at this too. I used the laserjet toner method. I got an
HP
> > > P1102w laser jet on ebay for $60. Printed on a junk mail "slick" page,
and
> > > ironed on the board (I bought a $22 laminator but I don't think it
gets hot
> > > enough so I used the iron). Etched with the FeCl. I was extremely
pleased
> > > with my first result. See my photos I just posted last week under "JCC
> > > First Board".
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > John
> > >
> > > On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 11:20 PM, Rodney Jackson <
> > > rodney.jackson@> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for that Erik, I do not have a CNC mill, unfortunately, I was
going
> > > > to try building one as I was able to afford to, but the old body is
a
> > > > little
> > > > too shaky these days for such precision work.
> > > >
> > > > I have tried the ferric acid route before, this was in the days of
laying
> > > > tracks with the strips and pads transfers. I might have to look for
a
> > > cheap
> > > > laser printer and have another crack at it that way.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Rod
> > > >
> > > > From: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Homebrew_PCBs%40yahoogroups.com>
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> > > > On Behalf Of Erik Knise
> > > > Sent: Thursday, 19 May 2011 4:12 AM
> > > >
> > > > To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Homebrew_PCBs%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Newbie
> > > >
> > > > Rod,
> > > >
> > > > There are 3 different methods people usually use. Positive or
> > > > negative photo resist, toner transfer and milling. It really depends
> > > > on what equipment you have or want to buy. If you have a CNC mill
> > > > then milling the boards may be a better option. If you have a high
> > > > resolution (1200 DPI) laser printer and a laminator, toner transfer
> > > > would be a good option. I've seen great results with the photo
resist
> > > > but I've never tried it and not sure what is involved.
> > > >
> > > > As for etching a lot of people use air regenerated Cupric Chloride.
> > > > Ferric chloride is an option but cupric chloride you can pretty much
> > > > use indefinitely by regenerating it with air or hydrogen peroxide.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Erik L. Knise
> > > > Seattle, WA
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 2:35 AM, Rodney Jackson
> > > > <rodney.jackson@ <mailto:rodney.jackson%40optusnet.com.au>
> > > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Thank you Erik for your reply. I have been trawling through the
site you
> > > > > mentioned, it is indeed full of useful information.
> > > > >
> > > > > Seems like I will be days in getting through it all. I have made
boards
> > > > in
> > > > > years past, these were by using stick on tracks and pads, a most
arduous
> > > > > task and the results looked very much what
> > > > >
> > > > > they were, __amateurish.
> > > > >
> > > > > There is a wealth of information in this world, one only has to
FIND
> > > it..
> > > > >
> > > > > Kind regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Rod.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > From: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
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> > > > <mailto:Homebrew_PCBs%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > >
> > > > [mailto:Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
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> > > > <mailto:Homebrew_PCBs%40yahoogroups.com> ]
> > > >
> > > > > On Behalf Of Erik Knise
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, 17 May 2011 12:28 AM
> > > > > To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
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> > > > Homebrew_PCBs%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Newbie
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > One of the members here, DJ Delorie, has an awesome website:
> > > > > http://www.delorie.com/pcb/
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 11:37 PM, Rodney <rodney.jackson@
> > > > <mailto:rodney.jackson%40optusnet.com.au>
> > > > > <mailto:rodney.jackson%40optusnet.com.au> > wrote:
> > > > >> G'day all,
> > > > >> as a newbie I guess this is the first question asked by all other
> > > > newbies.
> > > > > Could you point me to a F.A.Q. area where I might get some idea of
> > > making
> > > > > PCB's. I.E. best methods, how to reuse an old deskjet printer,
etc...
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Kind regards,
> > > > >> Rod
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Erik L. Knise
> > > > > Seattle, WA
> > > > >
> > > >
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> > >
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Photos:
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> > >
> > >
> >
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