> Posted by: "Dave M" dgminala@...
> <dgminala@...?Subject=+Re%3A%20Roland%20DXY%20800%2F880> snurfl
> <http://profiles.yahoo.com/snurfl> Sun Jan 9, 2011 6:44 am (PST)
>
> Ridge Electronics has the manual at
> https://www.ridgeequipment.com/store/manuals/search.php?query=roland. Not
> free, but very reasonable. These guys are good vendors. I've bought many
> manuals from them; never had a problem.
>
> David
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: davethesteam@... <davethesteam%40mailsaq.net>
> To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com <Homebrew_PCBs%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2011 2:30 PM
> Subject: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Roland DXY 800/880
>
> Hi, I'm a new user so I'm not 100% sure how this works, so here goes: I
> have a Roland DXY-880A plotter but I can't get it to work as I don't have a
>
> manual and I have mucked-up the switch settings. Do you (or anyone) have
> anything you can send me with the DIP switch settings on, I'd be happy to
> buy a manual or photocopy if anyone has anything available. I've tried
> everywhere to get a manual or switch info and even Roland can't help. I've
> found lots of people looking though :-)
>
> TIA
>
> David
>
> --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com <Homebrew_PCBs%40yahoogroups.com>,
> Trevor Matthews <bigtrev97@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > I have used direct plotting to PCB in the past, and gave it up a few
> years
> > ago. I had ink flow problems which would result in the traces not being
> > draw thickly enough several times through a plot. I was using 0.35mm pen
> > (so that I could do some thin traces) and I don't know if a larger pen
> size
> > would help. I wrote a Dephi (pascal) prgram which took the plot file and
> > after a length of drawn line, inserted a number of pen up, backspace,
> pen
> > down commands to 'shake' the pen and try and get more ink to the tip.
> >
> > If you want to try here are some of the things you need to know:
> >
> > You need to use a tungsten carbide 'X' point tip (the other tips are too
> > soft)
> > the pen is raised up by the addition of a washer placed below the ring
> of
> > the pen holder - experimentation will show you how low to put the ring
> so
> > that the pen holder can pick it up, and how high to put it so that the
> pen
> > tip is still flat on the surface of the board.
> > tape a peice of paper to the bed, and plot the board to the paper
> > Tape an oversized piece of PCB over the plot drawn above.
> > Fill the pen with ink (I tried for ages to find the right one, it was a
> > steadler ink. I think I still might have some at home if you want me to
> dig
> > out the part number, but IIRR it was out of production the last time I
> > bought some)
> > Plot the board
> > clean the pen - the only way to do this close to properly is to use an
> > ultrasonic cleaning bath. I ended up dissasembling the pen while
> cleaning
> > (I'm told you shouldn't really do this!) as it could easily spent a
> couple
> > of hours in the bath with me changing the solvent every 10 mins or so.
> > then etch and protect the board as usual.\
> >
> > I eventually gave up due to the trace issue above, and I couldn't
> > translate it to double sided with any degree of accuracy.
> >
> > Trev
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 1:26 AM, <casy_ch@...> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Don
> > >
> > > Could you send me your private adress to <casy_ch at tbwil dot ch>. I
> have
> > > files for you.
> > >
> > > Jean-Claude
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: VK3YV
> > > To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com <Homebrew_PCBs%40yahoogroups.com><Homebrew_PCBs%
> 40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 4:23 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Inkjet or Laser for PCB work?
> > >
> > > Hi Jean-Claude, that is a big help, now I need to know the DIP switch
> > > settings, I will be using the parallel port, and hopefully be able to
> use
> > > it
> > > with win xp, do you still have the dip switch settings?
> > > Many thanks,
> > > Don VK3YV........
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <casy_ch@... <casy_ch%40tbwil.ch>>
> > > To: <Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com <Homebrew_PCBs%40yahoogroups.com><Homebrew_PCBs%
> 40yahoogroups.com>>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 12:08 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Inkjet or Laser for PCB work?
> > >
> > > > Hi Don
> > > >
> > > > In the past I have had a DXY800 and later a DXY1150.
> > > >
> > > > All use HPGL (Hewlett Packard Graphic Language). Your programm
> should
> > > have
> > > > a HPGL driver and will generate a <xx.PLT> file.
> > > >
> > > > If you go to:
> > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HPGL
> > > > you will find the language it is using.
> > > >
> > > > 73 de Jean-Claude, Switzerland
> > > > HE9EZX
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: VK3YV
> > > > To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com <Homebrew_PCBs%40yahoogroups.com><Homebrew_PCBs%
> 40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 3:02 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Inkjet or Laser for PCB work?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi, on seeing you are using a Roland Plotter for pcb drawing I have
> a
> > > > query,
> > > > I have a Roland DXY 800 for which I have no information i.e.. dip
> switch
> > > > settings etc. that I would also like to use for PCB work. I have no
> > > > information at all about it , I don't even know what language it
> talks.
> > > > Can
> > > > any one help, I have searched for hours but cant find anything
> regarding
> > > > setup or language/ emulation .
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Don VK3YV.....
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "P COUNSELL" <pcounsell@...<pcounsell%40btinternet.com>
> > > >
> > > > To: <Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com <Homebrew_PCBs%40yahoogroups.com>
> <Homebrew_PCBs%40yahoogroups.com>>
> > > > Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 8:54 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Inkjet or Laser for PCB work?
> > > >
> > > > > Unfortunately athough I have some pens whuch were designed for
> pcbs
> > > > they
> > > > > are no longer availabe for rowland plotters. I do not see that as
> a big
> > > > > problem . I intend to use EDDING 404 PEN TIPS with edding 404
> refill
> > > > ink
> > > > > with a homemade holder. I will first try recharging my existing
> tips
> > > > when
> > > > > they run out with EDDING PERMANENT MARKER REFILL INK, I expect
> this to
> > > > > work fine.
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: P COUNSELL
> > > > > To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com<Homebrew_PCBs%40yahoogroups.com>
> <Homebrew_PCBs%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 10:41 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Inkjet or Laser for PCB work?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I modified my DXY880a very easily by using a piece of standard pcb
> > > > board
> > > > > so that the pen height was perfect for standard thickness pcbs.
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: borgrailuk
> > > > > To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com<Homebrew_PCBs%40yahoogroups.com>
> <Homebrew_PCBs%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 9:30 PM
> > > > > Subject: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Inkjet or Laser for PCB work?
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > Sounds interesting. How did you modify the plotter pen height and
> which
> > > > > pens/ink did you use?
> > > > >
> > > > > I have a DXY1200 - not too keen to modify height but am planning
> on
> > > > using
> > > > > a slightly thinner pcb, which will fit.
> > > > >
> > > > > Stephen Freeman
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com<Homebrew_PCBs%40yahoogroups.com>
> <Homebrew_PCBs%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > > "P COUNSELL" <pcounsell@>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have a very good dos program CADPAK and I use an old rowland
> > > > DXY-880A
> > > > > plotter. Results are fantastic . I modified the height of the
> plotter
> > > > pen
> > > > > to accomodate standard thickness PCB board. Only problem is it
> wont do
> > > > > tracks fine enough for intertrack knecking , itis also very slow
> on
> > > > > printing directly onto the copperlaminate but I have a cup of tea.
> Fine
> > > > > for prototyping.
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: Bob Butcher
> > > > > > To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com<Homebrew_PCBs%40yahoogroups.com>
> <Homebrew_PCBs%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 9:53 PM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Inkjet or Laser for PCB work?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have had a lot of trouble with toner transfer as well. My
> Brother
> > > > > 1440 laser printer toner will not release reliably from any paper
> I
> > > > have
> > > > > found. I have heard the toner has a higher melting temperature
> than
> > > > some
> > > > > other printers, but am not sure what the problem is.
> > > > > > I am not sure how you plan to modify the Artisan 50 inkjet
> printer to
> > > > > directly print on the rigid PCB material. Another thing to
> consider,
> > > > most
> > > > > of the ink jet ink I have seen is water soluble, so the etchant
> will
> > > > > dissolve the ink before it has a chance. I know there are ink jet
> > > > printers
> > > > > that are capable of using solvent based inks, but all the ones I
> have
> > > > seen
> > > > > are very expensive, in the several thousands of dollar range. You
> can
> > > > buy
> > > > > inexpensive "paint pens" from art and craft stores that might be
> useful
> > >
> > > > if
> > > > > you could find a flat bed printer that could be adapted to pens. I
> have
> > >
> > > > on
> > > > > old large format HP printer designed for CAD drafting that uses
> pens,
> > > > but
> > > > > the pen only moves on one axis, and the paper is fed back and
> forth by
> > > > a
> > > > > roller system for the other axis. The paper is wrapped around the
> > > > rollers,
> > > > > so it cannot be easily adapted to a rigid PCB. If someone had a
> flat
> > > > bed
> > > > > printer with a moving pen on two axes, that might work. Sounds
> like an
> > > > old
> > > > > school
> > > > > > chart recorder might work, if you could find a working model
> that
> > > > would
> > > > > interface to a modern computer.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Bob
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- On Wed, 7/21/10, gnuvvekaavaali <gnuvvekaavaali@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From: gnuvvekaavaali <gnuvvekaavaali@>
> > > > > > Subject: [Homebrew_PCBs] Inkjet or Laser for PCB work?
> > > > > > To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com<Homebrew_PCBs%40yahoogroups.com>
> <Homebrew_PCBs%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > Date: Wednesday, July 21, 2010, 12:22 AM
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am looking for suggestions on the choice of
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Inkjet (for direct inkjet printing) or laser
> > > > > >
> > > > > > printer (toner transfer) for the occasional single sided PCB.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I don't see I will be needing very thin or dense tracks.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > My experience with toner transfer have not been too good. I
> > > > > >
> > > > > > used a Samsung Laser printer, and a hot clothes iron,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > with different types of paper.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best results have been with glossy magazine paper, but still
> > > > > >
> > > > > > had some improper transfers.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The Epson Artisan 50 inkjet seems to be moddable for direct pcb
> > > > > printing, and I can get that for cheap.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Wondering if this is a easier and reliable way than toner
> transfer.
> > > > > >
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Please trim old portions of posts. This get particularly bad for those of us
who get the list in digest form.
Thanks you.
Mike
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