David
By sheer coincidence, I happened to be packing up my Roland DXY-880,
along with its later big brother the DXY-1100, ready to move house,
immediately before reading your post. Fortunately, while I don't have a
manual for the DXY-1100, I do have one for the DXY-880.
I have never used mine, having picked it up with some other items in an
auction some years back. Most of the manual concerns itself with
describing set-ups for particular PC boxes that were in vogue back in
1984, along with setting up for particular software packages, such as
Lotus 123, Supercalc etc. I had forgotten how specific everything tended
to be in the pre-Windows environment.
I can see only one page that seems to cover the DIP Switch settings in
their entirety, so I will scan it and send it to your email address, as
I dont think Yahoo permits attachments being sent via the group.
Bill
On 9/01/2011 7:30 AM, davethesteam@... wrote:
>
> Hi, I'm a new user so I'm not 100% sure how this works, so here goes: I have a Roland DXY-880A plotter but I can't get it to work as I don't have a manual and I have mucked-up the switch settings. Do you (or anyone) have anything you can send me with the DIP switch settings on, I'd be happy to buy a manual or photocopy if anyone has anything available. I've tried everywhere to get a manual or switch info and even Roland can't help. I've found lots of people looking though :-)
>
> TIA
>
> David
>
> --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, Trevor Matthews<bigtrev97@...> wrote:
>> I have used direct plotting to PCB in the past, and gave it up a few years
>> ago. I had ink flow problems which would result in the traces not being
>> draw thickly enough several times through a plot. I was using 0.35mm pen
>> (so that I could do some thin traces) and I don't know if a larger pen size
>> would help. I wrote a Dephi (pascal) prgram which took the plot file and
>> after a length of drawn line, inserted a number of pen up, backspace, pen
>> down commands to 'shake' the pen and try and get more ink to the tip.
>>
>> If you want to try here are some of the things you need to know:
>>
>> You need to use a tungsten carbide 'X' point tip (the other tips are too
>> soft)
>> the pen is raised up by the addition of a washer placed below the ring of
>> the pen holder - experimentation will show you how low to put the ring so
>> that the pen holder can pick it up, and how high to put it so that the pen
>> tip is still flat on the surface of the board.
>> tape a peice of paper to the bed, and plot the board to the paper
>> Tape an oversized piece of PCB over the plot drawn above.
>> Fill the pen with ink (I tried for ages to find the right one, it was a
>> steadler ink. I think I still might have some at home if you want me to dig
>> out the part number, but IIRR it was out of production the last time I
>> bought some)
>> Plot the board
>> clean the pen - the only way to do this close to properly is to use an
>> ultrasonic cleaning bath. I ended up dissasembling the pen while cleaning
>> (I'm told you shouldn't really do this!) as it could easily spent a couple
>> of hours in the bath with me changing the solvent every 10 mins or so.
>> then etch and protect the board as usual.\
>>
>> I eventually gave up due to the trace issue above, and I couldn't
>> translate it to double sided with any degree of accuracy.
>>
>> Trev
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 1:26 AM,<casy_ch@...> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Don
>>>
>>> Could you send me your private adress to<casy_ch at tbwil dot ch>. I have
>>> files for you.
>>>
>>> Jean-Claude
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: VK3YV
>>> To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com<Homebrew_PCBs%40yahoogroups.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 4:23 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Inkjet or Laser for PCB work?
>>>
>>> Hi Jean-Claude, that is a big help, now I need to know the DIP switch
>>> settings, I will be using the parallel port, and hopefully be able to use
>>> it
>>> with win xp, do you still have the dip switch settings?
>>> Many thanks,
>>> Don VK3YV........
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From:<casy_ch@...<casy_ch%40tbwil.ch>>
>>> To:<Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com<Homebrew_PCBs%40yahoogroups.com>>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 12:08 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Inkjet or Laser for PCB work?
>>>
>>>> Hi Don
>>>>
>>>> In the past I have had a DXY800 and later a DXY1150.
>>>>
>>>> All use HPGL (Hewlett Packard Graphic Language). Your programm should
>>> have
>>>> a HPGL driver and will generate a<xx.PLT> file.
>>>>
>>>> If you go to:
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HPGL
>>>> you will find the language it is using.
>>>>
>>>> 73 de Jean-Claude, Switzerland
>>>> HE9EZX
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: VK3YV
>>>> To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com<Homebrew_PCBs%40yahoogroups.com>
>>>> Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 3:02 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Inkjet or Laser for PCB work?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi, on seeing you are using a Roland Plotter for pcb drawing I have a
>>>> query,
>>>> I have a Roland DXY 800 for which I have no information i.e.. dip switch
>>>> settings etc. that I would also like to use for PCB work. I have no
>>>> information at all about it , I don't even know what language it talks.
>>>> Can
>>>> any one help, I have searched for hours but cant find anything regarding
>>>> setup or language/ emulation .
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Don VK3YV.....
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "P COUNSELL"<pcounsell@...<pcounsell%40btinternet.com>
>>>>
>>>> To:<Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com<Homebrew_PCBs%40yahoogroups.com>>
>>>> Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 8:54 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Inkjet or Laser for PCB work?
>>>>
>>>>> Unfortunately athough I have some pens whuch were designed for pcbs
>>>> they
>>>>> are no longer availabe for rowland plotters. I do not see that as a big
>>>>> problem . I intend to use EDDING 404 PEN TIPS with edding 404 refill
>>>> ink
>>>>> with a homemade holder. I will first try recharging my existing tips
>>>> when
>>>>> they run out with EDDING PERMANENT MARKER REFILL INK, I expect this to
>>>>> work fine.
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: P COUNSELL
>>>>> To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com<Homebrew_PCBs%40yahoogroups.com>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 10:41 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Inkjet or Laser for PCB work?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I modified my DXY880a very easily by using a piece of standard pcb
>>>> board
>>>>> so that the pen height was perfect for standard thickness pcbs.
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: borgrailuk
>>>>> To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com<Homebrew_PCBs%40yahoogroups.com>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 9:30 PM
>>>>> Subject: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Inkjet or Laser for PCB work?
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Sounds interesting. How did you modify the plotter pen height and which
>>>>> pens/ink did you use?
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a DXY1200 - not too keen to modify height but am planning on
>>>> using
>>>>> a slightly thinner pcb, which will fit.
>>>>>
>>>>> Stephen Freeman
>>>>>
>>>>> --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com<Homebrew_PCBs%40yahoogroups.com>,
>>> "P COUNSELL"<pcounsell@>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> I have a very good dos program CADPAK and I use an old rowland
>>>> DXY-880A
>>>>> plotter. Results are fantastic . I modified the height of the plotter
>>>> pen
>>>>> to accomodate standard thickness PCB board. Only problem is it wont do
>>>>> tracks fine enough for intertrack knecking , itis also very slow on
>>>>> printing directly onto the copperlaminate but I have a cup of tea. Fine
>>>>> for prototyping.
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: Bob Butcher
>>>>>> To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com<Homebrew_PCBs%40yahoogroups.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 9:53 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Inkjet or Laser for PCB work?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have had a lot of trouble with toner transfer as well. My Brother
>>>>> 1440 laser printer toner will not release reliably from any paper I
>>>> have
>>>>> found. I have heard the toner has a higher melting temperature than
>>>> some
>>>>> other printers, but am not sure what the problem is.
>>>>>> I am not sure how you plan to modify the Artisan 50 inkjet printer to
>>>>> directly print on the rigid PCB material. Another thing to consider,
>>>> most
>>>>> of the ink jet ink I have seen is water soluble, so the etchant will
>>>>> dissolve the ink before it has a chance. I know there are ink jet
>>>> printers
>>>>> that are capable of using solvent based inks, but all the ones I have
>>>> seen
>>>>> are very expensive, in the several thousands of dollar range. You can
>>>> buy
>>>>> inexpensive "paint pens" from art and craft stores that might be useful
>>>> if
>>>>> you could find a flat bed printer that could be adapted to pens. I have
>>>> on
>>>>> old large format HP printer designed for CAD drafting that uses pens,
>>>> but
>>>>> the pen only moves on one axis, and the paper is fed back and forth by
>>>> a
>>>>> roller system for the other axis. The paper is wrapped around the
>>>> rollers,
>>>>> so it cannot be easily adapted to a rigid PCB. If someone had a flat
>>>> bed
>>>>> printer with a moving pen on two axes, that might work. Sounds like an
>>>> old
>>>>> school
>>>>>> chart recorder might work, if you could find a working model that
>>>> would
>>>>> interface to a modern computer.
>>>>>> Bob
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --- On Wed, 7/21/10, gnuvvekaavaali<gnuvvekaavaali@> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: gnuvvekaavaali<gnuvvekaavaali@>
>>>>>> Subject: [Homebrew_PCBs] Inkjet or Laser for PCB work?
>>>>>> To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com<Homebrew_PCBs%40yahoogroups.com>
>>>>>> Date: Wednesday, July 21, 2010, 12:22 AM
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am looking for suggestions on the choice of
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Inkjet (for direct inkjet printing) or laser
>>>>>>
>>>>>> printer (toner transfer) for the occasional single sided PCB.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't see I will be needing very thin or dense tracks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My experience with toner transfer have not been too good. I
>>>>>>
>>>>>> used a Samsung Laser printer, and a hot clothes iron,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> with different types of paper.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best results have been with glossy magazine paper, but still
>>>>>>
>>>>>> had some improper transfers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Epson Artisan 50 inkjet seems to be moddable for direct pcb
>>>>> printing, and I can get that for cheap.
>>>>>> Wondering if this is a easier and reliable way than toner transfer.
>>>>>>
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