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Subject: Re: Board heat up time

From: "rlspell2000" <rls@...>
Date: 2010-07-16

Interesting. I run the laminator at 180C, and still need pre-heat.

In fact, I was running it at 220C (until the rollers failed) and still needed pre-heat.

I use OEM HP P1006 toner and Hammermill Laser Gloss paper.


--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "James" <jamesrsweet@...> wrote:
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> --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "rlspell2000" <rls@> wrote:
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> > The board I did on the new hot plate, between the clothes iron and the hot plate, preheated for 3 min @ 160C worked good.
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> > Tried that on the next one, and got bad trace adherence and transfer.
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> > Paper is turning brown. When I overcooked and smoked the paper it turned real brown...
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> > Decreased temp to 150C and run a board. OK but not great. Still loosing traces.
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> > Decreased temp to 140C. Much better, very little browning, good "stickage" and transfer, even of the fine alignment lines. But still some traces didn't adhere.
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> > Got to thinking. Yeah, I know, a dangerous thing. I got really good results at 160C and 3 minutes, but only moderately good results at 150C and 140C for four minutes. Got to wondering if I was actually "cooking" the toner. Damaging the plastic with the heat.
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> > Broke out the tiny type-K probe that came with the multimeter and a stop watch. Soldered the probe tip to the edge of a board, and had someone call out 10 second intervals as I wrote down the temperatures.
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> > Heated between the good aluminum top hot plate and the clothes iron, both at 140C, the board reaches full temp in less than 60 seconds....
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> > So any time I spend on the preheat, with my setup, beyond 1 minute is just overkill, and is probably baking the toner and making it non-sticky.
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> > I figure run it for like 90 seconds, give everything time to reach pre-heat temp, then run it through the laminator.
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> > Thoughts?
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> I never do any preheating. I just set the laminator to 160C which is as high as it goes and then run the board through a couple of times. perfect transfer every time.
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