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Subject: Re: GBC laminators

From: "jp.gleyzes" <freedom2000@...>
Date: 2010-07-04

Thanks Malcom;

Here is a photo album of the mods that I have done on this GBC laminator : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs/photos/album/2010322437/pic/1318278452/view?picmode=&mode=list&order=ordinal&start=1&count=20&dir=asc

I have also the Gcode available to mill the new epoxy walls (to avoid them to melt with high temperatures...)

JP


--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, Malcolm Parker-Lisberg <mparkerlisberg@...> wrote:
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> Very Smart, nice video production too.
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> I don't suffer from insanity I enjoy it!
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> --- On Sun, 7/4/10, jp.gleyzes <freedom2000@...> wrote:
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> From: jp.gleyzes <freedom2000@...>
> Subject: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: GBC laminators
> To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, July 4, 2010, 8:19 PM
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> This my first message in this forum. I must admit that I have spent hours reading a lot of interesting stuff here before posting AND daring to buy and modify a GBC laminator :-)
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> The results are IMPRESSIVE (at least compared to the traditional "iron" method..
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> I am from France, 49, and I enjoy sharing informations, I love CNC, electronics, computers... and kites and RC planes ... and much more !
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> --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "sailingto" <sailingtoo@> wrote:
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