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Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Found a great place to get boards made cheap

From: Stefan Trethan <stefan_trethan@...>
Date: 2003-08-13

@dave

is linux bad?
is staroffice bad (ok - now sun has got it... )?
is irfanview bad?
is opera bad?
is flashget bad?

i think some of the best pieces of software are free..


is it good that ms demands a better processor every 2 years?
can we really make more with our machines than we could in the past?

i don't think at all paying for software makes progress better or faster.
the pcb sector may be small and so it has not much good freeware.
and sure the hundreds of emolyees which develop big packages need to be
paid..


and the last point: here is not the US.
and that is good.

I am NOT using any cracked eagle here. I would have to think a lot to find
any cracked software here.








On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 17:03:41 -0000, Dave Mucha <dave_mucha@...>
wrote:

> damn, I HATE Yahoo !
>
> I just wrote a logical reply and yahoo trashed it and asked for my
> password ! crmmmy software designers.. shouldn't be allowed to charge
> for faulty software.......
>
>
> Oh, and sofwate is distrubuted with agreements and exchanges. you agree
> to use it and you exchange $$$ for it.
>
> any other use is violating that agreement.
>
> I think once you pay for software, you should get a working copy.
> upgrades included. a new product that is similar and fixes the origional
> problems should not be charged to paying users of the faulty program.
> That is like selling a faulty car and charging the owner to get it
> 'fixed'
>
> If bootleg is illegal, broken software should be illegal too ! selling a
> pre-release to get money in the door is fine, as long as a functional
> product is supplied at a later date.
>
> But, if software was not paid for, we would have SuperCalc and WordStar
> and 8088 microprocessors.
>
>
>
>> At some point i think software should be free..
>> I know this is impossible for software programmers but i would like
> it.
>> I also think knoweledge shold be free (plans etc.).
>> I know programming is just as hard work as building something
> but... on the
>> other side it are only bits and bytes..
>
>
> you could get there if you never charge for anything you do, but you must
> work 12 hour days and make a lot of stuff.
>
> if you like you can get started.... start on a project for me, design a
> the circuit, lay it out, etch the board and stuff it. send it for free
> to Dave at ........
>
>
> OK, this is off topic, but the bottom line is bootlegging software is
> illegal broken software is not. Once the software houses get their act
> together, the complaint will go away and less software will be
> bootlegged.
>
> while we wait, promoting illegal actions is illegal. besides it reveals
> to the world you probably have illegal stuff on your machine.
>
> And with the US Government planning on destroying your machine if illegal
> stuff is on it, you are risking a lot. This is true, currently they plan
> on a 3 strikes rule. if you pirate music and get caught 3 times, the 3rd
> tiem they plan on sending a virus to destroy your machine.
>
> OK, way way way oof topic.
>
> self moderation in 3....2....1
>
>