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Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: CIF through-hole rivets

From: Harvey White <madyn@...>
Date: 2010-03-11

On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 04:02:56 -0000, you wrote:

>Donald, I would NEVER get in a "violent" dis-agreement OR agreement with anyone. What has been my experience is the first side solders nicely, then when you flip the board over to solder the other side, the solder on the first side tends to melt causing a problem with wire falling out.

absolutely
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>That's why the rivets work so well for me - the head holds the rivet from first side, then the "upset" portion holds the rivet on the other side. Then both sides can be soldered without anything trying to fall out.
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Except that the rivets I have are gigantic (but low cost), work fine
for big work, lousy for compact designs. 0.051 hole with needed gap
about 0.030 around the rivet. Works fine for big stuff. #26 wire for
the small stuff.

>Am I the only person who has a problem with using a wire for a via? I've done it by bending both sides so they hold to board, but it doesn't work neatly as slick as the rivets.

Stitch the wire
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>if someone has the secret to how to hold the wire in while soldering on both sides - please share. OR maybe it's not a secret and I'm the only person who doesn't know? BTW, I have "sewn" wire thru all the vias to hold in place while soldering and that does work pretty good, but once they are clipped off and any rework has to be done, I have problems with solder melting.
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Yep, it will melt. That's why you don't rework them, or if you do,
stitch the wire though again and solder both sides. Known problem.

Harvey


>Ken H>
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>--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, Donald H Locker <dhlocker@...> wrote:
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>> I understand the principle. If the pre-headed side is soldered, though, then the other side can be soldered without the rivet falling out, right? Unless you and I are just in violent agreement, and saying the same thing with different words that neither understand.
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>> Donald.
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