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Subject: Moderator clarification

From: "crankorgan" <john@...>
Date: 2003-06-30

Steve,
I went back and looked at my first message. It looks more like
an ad than what I was trying to say. What I wanted to say is selling
a built machine is very hard. Even if you charged $500 each the
profit would be small. Several people made one of my machines and
sold it on Ebay. They made $25 profit not counting their time!


John








--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <alienrelics@y...>
wrote:
> I understand that John chooses not to sell his plans outside of USA
> and Canada. He is within his rights. This is apparently what he was
> refering to as off topic.
>
> As moderator, I consider it On Topic to bring up price and
> availability of On Topic items such as supplies, machinery, etc
> related to PCBs. When you get to the point of discussing credit card
> numbers and mailing addresses, that is the time to take it off list.
>
> But certainly many of us are interested in how much and payment
methods.
>
> Steve Greenfield
>
> --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "crankorgan" <john@k...>
wrote:
> > Markus,
> > The aluminum channel is shaped in such a way it becomes the
> > base and the linear slides. Regular threaded rod 1/4-20 is used
for
> > many reasons covered in my info section. Please keep your
questions
> > to milling circuit boards. Other questions are off topic.
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, Markus Zingg <m.zingg@n...>
> > wrote:
> > > >Markus,
> > > > The aluminum window channel used in my machines is only
> > > >available in the US and Canada. We can buy it here as scrap.
If
> > you
> > > >have a PCBoard milling question just ask.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Nothing beats the copier/etching method! I have tried
all
> > the
> > > >methods to date except the URBAN LEGEND Inkjet/floor polish
method.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > John
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > > I apreciate your reply. I'm close to 100% sure I could organize
a
> > > replacement for that channel here - IMHO really no reason not
to
> > ship
> > > plans if your customer knows that getting parts needs to
improvise.
> > I
> > > mean I really do expect to have problems with getting the SAME
parts
> > > as you use in your constructions here just because of the
> > > inches/metrics difference between the place you and I live, so
> > > expecting a fool prove plan for the conditions as they are here
for
> > me
> > > would be foolish. BUT, just get ideas and the experience that is
> > > inside your plans IS worth the price of the plans.
> > >
> > > Btw, I don't want to build a milling machine to do PCB milling,
but
> > I
> > > need an acurate (and faster) way to drill the holes into the
PCB and
> > > that's where a CNC milling machine comes in handy. Besides, I
also
> > > would apreciate having a simple CNC milling machine for other
> > ocasions
> > > (not PCB related).
> > >
> > > Ok, I do have a question :-) What I did not see / read on your
pages
> > > is what kind of sliders you use. I.e. if you use regular
threaded
> > > stocks and nuts or if you use more precise stuff and of course
if
> > it's
> > > really possilbe by using regular threaded stocks / nuts only to
> > reach
> > > the precision you claim for the "brute".
> > >
> > > Bottom line is I'm still interested in getting your plans (for
the
> > > burte), cause I'm more than convinced that they contain enough
> > detail
> > > information saving me hours of hassle hence justifying the
price.
> > Wire
> > > transfering shipping charges along with the price of the plans
to
> > any
> > > bank acount of yours you name (in a privat e-mail to me of
course)
> > > would just take some mouse clicks. (That's something we're
really
> > good
> > > at here in Switzerland. We don't use checks of any nature
anymore
> > for
> > > at least more than 20 years now :))) )
> > >
> > > Markus