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Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Homebrew through plating station - sucess!

From: Markus Zingg <m.zingg@...>
Date: 2003-06-08

On Sun, 08 Jun 2003 09:29:09 +1000, you wrote:

>
>
>Markus Zingg wrote:
>>>Markus Zingg wrote:
>>
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>> You are right, I am using palladium activation. The palladium is 200
>> EUR per 0.5 liter. That's expensive, but my 2.5 liter tank only needs
>> 125ml per load. The remaining part is filled up with the pre-dip
>> solution which is a lot cheaper. That said, the 200 EUR palladium is
>> sufficient for four loads which last quite a while.
>
>Thanks for the price info. I'd expected that price range. I
>remember once a friend looked into doing his own through
>hole plating using conventional electroless copper and got a
>shock when the sales person faxed him the prices :). You
>point out that the economics going down this path yourself
>is still small compared to professional made boards, which
>is all the matters at the end of the day.
>
>I guess the importnat thing now is to take extra care not to
>comtaminate the palladium solution.

Yes, of course. I added covers to all tanks, and take extreme care to
follow the process specifications to the letter.

>There is really no alternative because its not likely your
>going to develop your own chemistry and go through the years
> of research that the manufactures once did. Its taken
>decades for these alternative electroless copper systems to
>make it in the industry. If your are interested in the
>subject you might like to read;
>
>http://nr.stic.gov.tw/ejournal/ProceedingA/v23n3/365-368.pdf

Very intresting article! Too bad it's quite short on the methods. The
palladium as well as the pre dip bath smell like vanilla - so I FIGURE
my solution uses the Palladium method which mentiones vanilla...

Again, I'm happy that it works now and currently I really don't have
the time to delve into this.

[snip]

>The strip solution is not critical, but from what I've read
>on all dry film data sheets is the developer should be 9 to
>11g/L NaCO3. If the instructions say 20g/L then use that.
>For my developing method I pour 500 ml of warm water into a
>plastic tray and then add 50 ml of concentrate stock
>solution (100g/L NaCO3). I drop in the PCB and gently brush
>over with a 50 mm wide paint brush until I can clearly see
>all the copper. Then I continue brushing for another minute
>just to make sure all the (unexposed) resist is removed.
>I've had problems with resist residue if I don't do the
>extra brushing. Then the board is quickly rinsed and goes
>straight into the etchant. I found the resists can swell a
>the edges if rinsed for too long a time in fresh water. Once
>the bard goes into the acidic etchant then the resist film
>returns hard again.

I too use a wide paint brush and do it quite similarly. Intresting
observation with only rinsing it shortly. I will try this and see if
it changes the quality of the final PCB.

Markus