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Subject: Re: Toner Transfer

From: "pgdion1" <pgdion1@...>
Date: 2007-03-21

--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "pgdion1" <pgdion1@...> wrote:
>
> --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "pgdion1" <pgdion1@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, Jim Hutchinson <jhutch17@>
wrote:
> > >
> > > Ted Bruce KX4OM wrote:
> > > > Jim,
> > > > I found the same problem with residue in the space between the
> traces
> > > > as you did, using clay-coated inkjet paper and glossy photo inkjet
> > > > paper. (Good tip on the laundry detergent; I'll have to try
> that, as
> > > > glossy paper's fast pull-off is easier than rag-content paper's
> > > > rub-off process).
> >
> >
>
> >
> > Tough part now is the paper I used I had bought 2 years ago at
> Office Max as a cheap photo paper, kind of a magazine quality to the
> prints. Of course now they no longer sell it. It was called Office Max
> Premium Glossy Inkjet Paper, 180g / 7mil, and was product number
> 28916 Glossy
> >
> > I just bought a new paper from Office Depot. They call it Glossy
Brochure/Flyer Paper, 43lb.
> I'll post results on Monday.
>
> Ok, the results of the Office Depot paper were not good.
>
> I did find a paper I like. Very similar to the Office Max stuff but a
> little thinner. It's by Hammermill (available from Sam's Club #
229030) and it's called OfficeOne Glossy Paper.
>
>

Ok, I do like the new paper. It doesn't just "float off" like the
Office Max did but, it did work really well. It picked up toner nice
and the toner transferred to the pcb well. One of my best transfers
yet. Soaking was a breeze. Without the clay surface, the paper
saturates quickly and breaks down. Soak about 5 minutes, and most of
it rubs off with a gentle rubbing motion. Soak another 5 minutes and
some gentle rubbing removes the rest. My wife has these magic erase
sponges for dishes & counters, ect. They're like a white dense foam
rubber. I rubbed one of those gently over the board under running
water and all of the exposed copper was clean. I was doing 12/12 in
some small areas (mils), most of the board was 16/16. I don't think I
would go any smaller with the TT (at least not with just a plain old
clothes iron) but for this and up it worked out really well and ... it
was easy and fast (exactly what I wanted it for). Boards turned out
pretty good, I slightly over-etched them (need to get a clearer top on
my container.
For Etching I used the Muratic Acid mixed 50/50 with off the shelf
Hydrogen Peroxide (no other dillution as both are already dilluted in
the containers) and it worked very well (outside of the nasty fumes it
gives off - use outside only!!).

The new paper was Hammermill OfficeOne Glossy Paper #229030, $7 for
300 sheets at Sams Club. Staples should have it to. Next order I'll
also try their Hammermill Color Laser Gloss Paper (#292253) and see
what it's like (that one's still only $8).

New photo's will be uploaded soon.
phil
KA0HBG