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Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] First PCB

From: "Stefan Trethan" <stefan_trethan@...>
Date: 2007-01-16

On Mon, 15 Jan 2007 23:54:43 +0100, William Carr <Jkirk3279@...>
wrote:

>
> I bring this up because I wondered if the process could be used to
> recharge etchant. If you put a copper rod in as the sacrificial
> scrap metal, you'd force copper into the solution.
> William Carr


Actually, you use a graphite rod as one electrode, or both, since you want
to get copper out of it not into it. I've tried it, but it doesn't work
very well. Chlorine gas is produced at the electrode (of course! you plate
the Cu away from CuCl). This chlorine gas would need dissolving in the
etchant, otherwise you just pollute the air.
One suggestion to do this was a rotating electrode. i am not impressed by
that idea. I think one should try to make a downstream gas dissolver like
used by aquarium people to dissolve CO2. Basically a vertical tube filled
with obstructions like marbles, gas introduced at the bottom, and a pump
circulating water (in our case etchant) from the top to the bottom, so
there is a downflow. This slows down the gas dramatically, giving time for
dissolution (it could be closed up on top so any chlorine reaching the top
would accumulate for later dissolving instead of escaping).

Who knows it may even be suffucient to catch the chlorine gas in an
upside-down container and keep it there presented to the etchant for slow
dissolving without any pumps. I never tried.

A simple addition may be a magnetic stirrer to stir up the static
gas/water for faster reaction.

The way this copper recovery is done industrially is by using a membrane
between the electrodes that allows only ions through or something like
that, i don't fully understand the process. But it works for them.

It seems lotsa effort for little gain to me. With the small number of
boards i do excess CuCl has never been a problem.

ST