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Subject: Re: (Wooden) CNC router plans

From: "crankorgan" <john@...>
Date: 2006-12-24

Chris,
This guy and others have contacted me and said my designs were
great!

http://www.digirout.com/

While people have waited for products from Ken Brand (Ballendo)
and others I made it happen. Earth Shattering no but to thousands who
have bought my plans and hundreds who have finished them I have made
their day. All my designs are cost driven. The Brute can be built for
under $125 using hand tools. It took years for other machines to show
up. Talk is cheap!

John



--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "lcdpublishing"
<lcdpublishing@...> wrote:
>
> Hi John,
>
> Gee, I suppose the first guy that painted a car red is the only
> person with the rights to do so? In your way of thinking, we would
> have run out of colors a long time ago! John, get over it. Your
> designs are not all that "earth shattering", the materials used are
> crude at best, and there is nothing in your designs that is so
> innovative that it makes people stand up and say "Gee, that just
> brilliant!" Seriously, you actually think you are the first person
> to use aluminum extrusions for a guideway? Good thing you don't
> work at the patent office!
>
> Chris
>
>
> --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "crankorgan" <john@> wrote:
> >
> > Chris,
> > Three people copied the HobbyCNC board. All three went down
> in
> > flames when Dave came out with the new board. It made my day! You
> can
> > search every magazine in the world. I was the first to use the
> window
> > channel. The scraps never made it into the hands of the public. You
> > remind me of the people who said swaping MP3s were going to help
> the
> > record industry. I am in the process of looking for a job. There
> won't
> > be any new designs (old ones according to you) coming from me in
> the
> > future. I took a bunch of old ideas and made something new out of
> > them. In six years nobody has done anything as slick.
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "lcdpublishing"
> > <lcdpublishing@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi John,
> > >
> > > I know you have been upset about this whole thing for some time
> now. I
> > > don't know what you expect of other people though.
> Realistically, your
> > > machine designs use crude, commonly available materials. Just
> because
> > > you printed on paper the idea of using cheap window channel for
> a
> > > guideway does not give you sole rights to use that idea. Nor
> does the
> > > use of extremely crude gas/water pipe for other machine
> components.
> > > Anyone can use any of those materials in anything they wish to,
> > > including a CNC machine.
> > >
> > > If you look back through woodworking magazines for the last 20
> years
> > > or so, you will find numerous uses of the cheap aluminum
> extrusions
> > > for a variety of jigs and fixtures. In many cases, it was used
> as a
> > > guideway. Assuming those published drawings predate yours, then
> in
> > > essence you ripped off them of their idea.
> > >
> > > Using gas pipe and or water pipe is another "hacked together"
> framing
> > > material used for innovative purposes long before you used it on
> your
> > > machine. As it is easy to obtain, it has been used for many
> other
> > > purposes including as an axel for a turntable type device
> published in
> > > a woodworking magazine many years back. It is used as a "hidden
> shelf
> > > hanger" device and I am sure many other unique applications.
> > >
> > > I don't know if you expected the world to bow down to you for
> all
> > > machine designs using similar materials, but if so, you were not
> being
> > > realistic at all. Sorry to sound so harsh, but you seem to want
> to
> > > claim rights to things that you have no right to claim. If
> someone is
> > > photocopying your drawings and reselling them, call the
> authorities as
> > > you would have something to complain about. But complaining
> about
> > > people showing similar uses of similar materials is just
> unrealistic.
> > >
> > > Chris
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "crankorgan" <john@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Stefan,
> > > > Lets see him produce plans without the window channel.
> The
> > > > window channel was my epiphany! He mounted the motor and
> bearing
> > > > plates on the channel the same way! The Z axis Gas pipe etc. I
> guess
> > > > if I stole your car and repainted it, that would be ok with
> you?
> > > >
> > > > John
> > >
> >
>