Archive of the former Yahoo!Groups mailing list: Homebrew PCBs

Hi Stephan,

I have no intention of dicussing that subject either but I will
summarize again:

1. Direct printing on copper is a COOL method but the ink tends to
dry out in the printer head and when it dries out even teh cleaning
cartridges from mispro do not work. My suggestion is: stay away from
mispro inks- their color is not what epson envisioned for quality-
they are 'dirty' colors! Even if you get to the point of printing,
two days later it won't print and you brand new printer will behave
like it was from ebay. The reason? Dies out in a print head.

2. Do not buy Epson printers from ebay and do not buy Epson printers
refurbished- not worth it. And do not buy C84!!! Nor C86!!!

3. Mispro ink is good for printing on PCBs but if you think you
will use it as ink in your second printer- you will not: you have to
swap, according to Stefan, yellow cartridge with black. That makes
yellow cartridge black and by difusion... you get the picture.?

4. Your printer even if it only prints on 20 mil copper, ie without
conversion with the nibbling tool (you haven't lived yet if you have
not converted a C84 according to Stefan's direction: Stefan is a
genious and you are not :) -- even then you will not be able to use
your printer for printing for any normal prints unless your
application is on a small format or you enjoy having an alongated
cutout in paper on the right side....approximately 35mm :))

4. Good luck and PLEASE QUIT BUYING THOSE inferior Epson C84
printers. At least in US you can buy a brand new C88+ that does the
same job.

And yes: it was a major breakthru when Stefan (I guess theere was
another person invollved in that project) determined yellow and
magenta contain an ingredient which laminates at high temp. Beyond
that it is an excercise (I won't say "in futility, but close) and it
is not a method as convenient as TT. No way. Resolution? Depending
on your skill and application, can be very close, too.

Cost and economy: it is a nonsense to even consider the economy of
mispro inks application $$$$$$. You want to know something better?
Mispro resetter does NOT work on original Epson cartridges. Does
not, so you cannot re-use them for reinking the original ones. Am I
the only one in the world who decided to follow Stefan's directions?
Wow! We have so many writers on the subject :)) Mike