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Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Slightly off topic: Anyone have any spare C88 chips?

From: "Stefan Trethan" <stefan_trethan@...>
Date: 2006-08-06

On Sun, 06 Aug 2006 20:00:29 +0200, Steve <alienrelics@...> wrote:

>
> Then you aren't looking closely enough. :') I am not talking about
> -all- spongeless cartridges. As I stated, only OEM Epson C6x/C8x
> series, maybe (haven't checked yet) the R200/300 series.

Well, mine clearly can get filled as much as you dare to ;-)

> Some of that goomba is to make it impossible to simply inject ink in
> through the outlet. Some is there to regulate ink pressure.
> The upshot? Turn it upside down, drill a hole next to the ink outlet.
> Fill a syringe with the proper amount of ink for that cartridge,
> insert it into the hole you drilled. You should have selected a drill
> bit so that the syringe (or blunt adapter from MIS) is a tight fit in
> the hole.
> Now using either another syringe (twice as large as the first) or a
> vacuum pump, suck air out of the ink outlet.
> The syringe full of ink will pull itself down, the second it hits
> bottom stop pulling out the outlet. Bang! It is a full as it is going
> to get, both top and bottom chambers.
> Now if you are talking about MIS spongeless, those are -made- to be
> refilled so they do not have all the extra junk just to make refilling
> hard.

I'd dread to make a hole in the bottom (where gravity will not be your
friend), also, that would make it impossible to fill inside the printer.

> However, MIS instructions leave out an important step: you should
> temporarily tape over the air inlet hole before removing the fill
> plug. Then -after- reinstalling the fill plug, -before- drawing a
> little ink out the ink outlet to prime it, remove the tape over the
> air inlet.
> If you don't, ink flows up into the air inlet. This can cause problems
> later, and you won't know why. Dried ink in the air inlet can hinder
> air, so nozzle checks look fine and light printing is OK, but heavy
> printing can show random banding as printing progresses. Then a nozzle
> check or light printing immediately after can still look just fine.

OK, i can see how that happens - the ink levels will equalize due to
gravity.
The vent hole is the same size as the fill hole, but i didn't get any
spare stoppers with it..
Maybe i'll make one from silicone... OTOH i might just remember the
warning and wash it out when the problem turns up, or stick in a syringe
since the hole fits a luer taper.
Thanks!

BTW, the carts came with some strange syringes. Huge diameter and the
plunger is hollow inside, so that there's always much air inside it that
can not be expelled. Any ideas how those are supposed to be especially
useful?

ST