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Subject: Re: homebrew laser plotter

From: "roel_cnc" <atmelletje@...>
Date: 2006-06-27

--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "Andrew" <andrewm1973@...>
wrote:
>
> >> Roel CNC wrote:
> >>
> >> i like the idea of making me own laserplotter.
> >> tested: a pointerlaser (some cheap thing)
> >> with an extra focus lense, a red sensible
> >> film gave me super fine lines (close to a
> >> single cloth fiber).
> >>
> >> did any of us fouling around with this idea !!
> >>
> >> tips and suggestions always welcome:)
> >>
>
> > Roel also wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > M i started this toppic - got lots of replys
> > on it with ideas :)
> >
> > i gonna use Cunningfellow's pll thing some
> > stepper for the laser and a dma-16 card -
> > high speed dio card up to 250kB/s some code
> > compiled (TPascal)that eats the the 274 (gerber)
> > files and output to the drum
>
> Roel - I have done a bit more work on the PLL
> thing. That one posted so far was just a test of
> concept / prototype. There are a few things
> un-needed and a few other things that are needed.
>
lots of schematics on the net for pll that can be used i think

> It was built to do some tinkering with a
> commercial DC servo motor I had lying around.
> I finally want to just use a DC brushed motor
> with some optos ripped out of mice (to make it
> easier for others to get parts to build)
>
> Also - I was planning on getting the data out of
> a USB port (via an FT232) instead of some custom
> hardware in the PC (again ease to duplicate).
>
> The FT232 can do 4 Mb (which is same ballpark to
> 250 KB). However if you compress the 1000dpi
> data even with a simple algo like G3 fax you can
> fit the data stream down 100 kilo baud (assuming
> 1000dpi and 10" x 10" board in 10 minutes)
>
> I have sourced some toothed belts and linear
> shafts for moving the laser head. I have also
> found a source of cheapish lasers that can be
> focused down to small enough dot size if I can't
> find a simple repeatable solution for people to
> do the same with a cheap laser pointer.

i was thinking to use a ldiode from a dvd burner they
can trow up to 70mw and with a good lense a super ultra thin line
>
> Very interested in your thoughts on the carraige
> part. You seem to have a lot more experience
> than I with CNC things (and PVC etch tanks).

> Do you think at 1000 (or 2000) DPI that there will
> be a sticktion problem? Do you think the tooth
> belt idea is going to be good enough or do you
> think that I might need to use a very fine pitch
> leadscrew?

a lead screw for this job will be expensive i think
first touhts was to use a beld but after some thinking
a steel wire is super stiff and easy to gear
>
> I have done some software on the PC to read a
> BMP file compress it and send it out to my
> hardware. I was just going to use and external
> gerber to BMP thing. However - I have no
> objections to reading geber directly if you would
> like to work together on the project.
>

> The only other though I had from the PC side
> was to maybe write a GDI driver. That might be
> a bit out of my league though.
>
> andrewm (or cunningfellow to some)
>
email me if you like Andrew or maybe msn its faster hey'

gr Roel