Archive of the former Yahoo!Groups mailing list: Homebrew PCBs

previous by date index next by date
previous in topic topic list next in topic

Subject: Re: Epson R220 Printer - compatible with the MIS Inks?

From: "fenrir_co" <fenrir@...>
Date: 2006-05-16

--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "lcdpublishing"
<lcdpublishing@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Chris (other Chris)
>
> If I don't get any confirmation one way or the other by the end of
> the day, I am probably going to buy the printer anyway. I can use
> it for it's original intended purpose.
>
> Without modification, I am hoping I can print on some small PCBs and
> do some testing with the Epson Ink, followed by the MIS inks.
>
> So, I will be doing some testing and experiments on this printer one
> way or another.
>
> By chance, does anyone know how to suck the standard ink out and
> replace it with the MIS inks?
>
> Chris (the other chris)
>

I believe the ink being discussed is not even a pigment based ink, so
it will definitely work in the R220. Epson's C and R series printers
both have rather similar printheads, the C-series is 4-color
pigment and better for document printing (though Epson seems to be
advertising it as a photo printer) and the R-series is 6-color
dyebased inkset, but you can use pigment ink in the dye printers - MIS
sells a set specifically for this in order to create a pigment photo
printer for under $200. (the R1800 is $500+). So even if the ink is
pigment, the R220 should still be able to use it.

As for sucking the ink out, if you mean the tanks the printer came
with - they're terribly difficult to refill, there's no guarantee you
won't ruin one in the process: you really should buy refillable
blank cartridges from MIS with auto-reset chips. If you mean the MIS
tanks, you'd have to call them about it. I believe you can suck all
the ink out with the 'bottom fill adapter' that they sell to prime
their refillables.

I'm still having a very hard time believing that these printers mix
the colors to create black. I think people are getting confused
because the color ink level goes down even if you're only printing in
black and white. Epson C and R printers both use the color ink to
/clean/ the printheads, every time you turn the printer on, and after
a certain number of prints. The printer is incapable of cleaning just
one printhead color, it has to use all 4 or 6 each time. If you have
'black ink only' checked, the colors will be used up, but it is /not/
being put onto the paper. Even if you don't have this setting checked,
if the image itself is black and white, the printer will still use
only the black ink to create it, it only uses the colors to create
greyscale photos. I'm going to check with a few technicians to try to
find data that confirms this.

Also, if you buy the R220, you can get a settlement refund.

http://www.epsonsettlement.com

Go for the $25 check/$20 store credit, NOT the $45 store credit.