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Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Hello Sir Dennis...

From: Patrick Cambre <braincambre500@...>
Date: 2006-02-11

Hello Stefan,

Yes, that is right papaer. That is exactly what I am
using.

I just made a another perfect PCB...no pinholes, no
lifting-up of the toner...and besides that, I can't
even fingernail stratch it off. This is incredible. It
is really embeeded on the PCB.

The only thing left is the residue. (Yes, Stefan, I
put it in regular tap water in my sink, and then after
a minute or so...I begin to rub it of with the
underneath of my fingers...I do not let my fingernails
strach it...although I had tried to scratch it...once
it was dry...and I was amazed how that toner is a
'rebel' to come off!) I am wondering if anyone knows
of a certain 'chemical' that would eat it up!

I don't even have to pass it through the paper two
times. One time works great...although I have an
obtion with my HP1020 printer program, that
says...heavy. I am only using a black toner cartridge
in my printer...as it came like that, when I bought
it.

So I print as 'heavy' at I am still amazed. I keep the
iron on it around one minute. (I put a piece of
regular paper in between the inkjet paper and my iron.
Then put about 5 or so sheets of paper, under the PCB,
to keep my table from getting to hot.) Then I just
keep heavy pressure on it, and about every 5 seconds
or so...I turn the iron around into a different
position...to make sure every part of the PCB has
gotten sufficient pressure.

That's it, my friend!

...your friend, Patrick

--- Stefan Trethan <stefan_trethan@...> wrote:

> Patrick,
>
> since i was not knighted (yet ;-) ) you might do
> away with the Sir if you
> want ;-)
>
> The paper is this one, right?
>
<http://www.fjaproducts.com/common/assets/DaisyTek/ProdStandard/C1846A.JPG>
>
> It has 175g/m2, that is very heavy. With my printer
> this might not get
> enough toner.
> I don't think the registration of my printer is good
> enough to print
> mutiple times.
>
>
> I'm sure i can't get this HP paper here, because
> they will not sell the
> letter sized version. It is quite possible the very
> same paper is sold
> here in A4 but the part number will be different and
> it is hard to be
> certain if it is the same paper. I'll look again
> next time i'm in a store
> with lots of paper.
>
> How hard was this paper to soak off?
>
> I read in the database section - i quote:
>
> ∗∗∗∗∗∗∗∗∗∗
> HP Q2419A
> Incredible - this paper worked exactly how I always
> imagined toner
> transfer to work. Passed thru the laminator a few
> times (5 to be safe),
> quick cold water rinse, then left in warm water.
> 5-10 minutes later, the
> paper was only held down by the tape I had used to
> secure it.
> ∗∗∗∗∗∗∗∗∗∗
> If anyone has this paper, i would be very grateful
> for a sheet or two per
> mail, i will be happy to refund your cost via
> paypal.
>
> I'm always looking for a better paper than i already
> have, that would need
> to be released very easily. I can do that with
> silicone paper, but the
> problem is i get pinholes and through-etching with
> that so i can only use
> it for component legend. I don't know why that is.
>
>
> About paint, it might be OK for very simple PCBs,
> but you will soon wish
> to use a software made for PCB layout, because it
> makes things much easier
> as circuits get complicated.
>
>
> ST
>
>
> On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 23:10:17 +0100, Patrick Cambre
> <braincambre500@...> wrote:
>
> > Hello Sir Stefan,
> >
> > Yes, the paper I have was bought at Wal-Mart a few
> > months ago. It has a picture on the front. The
> picture
> > is a small girl with her hands around the neck of
> a
> > brown and white calf.
> >
> > The info on the box is this...
> >
> > Inkjet/Glassy/8.5" X 11"/8.5 mil/175g/m2 47lb/25
> > sheets
> >
> > The name of the paper on top of the picture
> says...
> >
> > HP Photo Paper
> >
> > A caption under the picture of the girl says...
> >
> > Glossy photo paper with an instant dry finish
> >
> > On the back of the box, in the lower right hand
> > corner, there is area with this...
> >
> > C1846A
> > copyright 2004
> > Hewlett-Packard
> > Development Company,L.P.
> >
> > Other then that, I do not see a part number, other
> > then the caption in the lower right hand corner.
> It
> > may be C1846A.
> >
> > In ref to your density...I have tried and put my
> paper
> > back into the printer, to have the toner apply
> another
> > coat on top of the first....and it came out
> perfect.
> > So then I did it three more time...a total of five
> > times through the printer. Not bad at all, if you
> need
> > that extra density on your prints. Give that a
> try.
> >
> > But since I have been using the paper, I only run
> the
> > paper through the printer once...and get
> unbeleable
> > results! Now I can really get down, and do some
> great
> > circuit drawing in the Paint Program on Windows
> 98.
> >
> > If you are familar with the Paint Program, the
> program
> > has five different settings for making a 'dot'. I
> used
> > the small setting, and that single dot came
> out...on
> > the PCB...just as it showed up on my print. Now
> that's
> > getting down right good!
> >
> > Yes, if you want to see a picture of what the box
> > looks like...let me know...and I will put it out
> on my
> > website for you to see what it looks like.
> >
> > But I would assume that your printer can still be
> > used...trying the 'run through again' process in
> the
> > printer.
> >
> > When it came time for the iron, I pressed real
> hard
> > for 30 seconds...and it came out perfect...no
> smears
> > at all...no pin-holes at all...
> >
> > So then I tried for 2 minutes, just to see what
> would
> > happened...and no different then ther 30 second.
> No
> > smears appeared...and that really impressed me.
> >
>
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