First, apologies to the list. Some guys just don't get it...
Chris,
Everybody online in the CNC community knows you just like to yank my
chain...
Here's something else they know. You don't read(follow directions)
before throwing out your opinions...
>>Ballendo wrote:
>>A search of "500 buck" in the archive here should turn up the
>>details, so I won't waste bandwidth repeating them here.
Seems pretty clearly written to me? Nearly every question you've
asked has already been answered in the previous threads mentioned in
my post. The machine was discussed in quite some detail awhile back.
Please quit telling me how to do things. Just ignore my posts. Please.
Ballendo
P.S. Snips, inserts follow...
>"lcdpublishing" <lcdpublishing@y...> wrote:
>Well, let's see here. You are asking a group of people to commit to
>purchasing a machine based on a description that would barely
>describe a piece of paper.
Already covered above; and in the previous thread referred to. No
need to waste further group bandwidth as I was looking for folks who
ALREADY had replied; so THEY obviously felt they had enough info to
make a preliminary decision.
I'm not looking for trolls, only serious ly INTERESTED folks. If
that's not you; no need to reply. And there's no need for you to
speak for everyone else, either.
>tangible information
(already provided, but repeated here by snips and additions to your
list)
> steppers
> Drives included
> acme screws anti-backlash nuts
> Way system used (adjustable box ways, delrin on steel)
> Spindle HP (N/A) the base unit provides for a third party spindle
> gantry machine
(machine is fully plug and play) The original--potential--buyers here
already know they'd be assemblers. That's part of the reason for
their price break. Again, already covered and understood by those for
whom the message was intended...
> What else does a person need to utilize this machine?
Computer, spindle (dremel, proxxon, cnconabudget, and we'll be
offering our own later at added cost)
> How fast is this machine? 60IPM milling speed, rapids at 90IPM
> Can you provide any examples of how fast it can mill isolation
> grooves on a given size board?
The math is simple, speed times legth of cut; will vary with every
board. The machine is as fast as commercial offerings from LPKF and T-
Tech costing 10-30 times the price.
>Why don't you just provide some photographs and real details of
>these machines?
I have already provided many REAL details. When it is time to add
more I will do just that. Please market your own products your own
way. I'm not asking your advice in how to being a product to market.
>I get hundreds of spam emails everyday asking me to provide
>financial information to purchase "something", at least they
>provide SOME details!
If you actually read the mesasge I sent and followed the directions
there; you would find all the answers/details above already in print.
Mariss and others shut down your attacks upon me in the other groups;
didn't you learn anything?
Ballendo
> --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "ballendo" <ballendo@y...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hello again,
> >
> > Actually I'm back here to get a fresh report on any interest in
> the
> > PCB mill/drill I described some time back.
> >
> > If you replied before, I still have your name on the list; but
> since
> > it's been awhile, I'd like to update the list.
> >
> > The reason is that I've found an investor who is also interested
> in
> > the PCB aspects of that machine. So what happened since last post?
> >
> > The machine structure is made of 12GA sheet steel, laser cut and
> > pressbrake formed. Then painted and silkscreened. To do this in
> > small quantities will not allow the 500-800 buck price to be met.
> I
> > was working with another man til recently to bring some OTHER non-
> > PCB aimed cnc products to market (profits from which would allow
> > these PCB mills, I call them roadrunners to be made at the
desired
> > price point), but the has not kept our agreements.
> >
> > Now the new investor would prefer that we make the design he had
> > original interest in; so I'm asking to see if the quantity
desired
> > would allow that. Otherwise we'll need to introduce some of the
> > other things first, as was planned before...
> >
> > I had 35 folks here who were seriously interested in a 500 buck
> > 10x10x2-1/2 PCB mill/drill which could do drilling, isolation,
> front
> > panel engraving, and with added parts; Pick n Place, rotary axis
> > items, vinyl cutting, etc.
> >
> > A search of "500 buck" in the archive here should turn up the
> > details, so I won't waste bandwidth repeating them here.
> >
> > If you're still seriously interested in a small, precise,
> > inexpensive, capable PCB oriented CNC machine; please let me know
> > ASAP offlist.
> >
> > Thank you,
> >
> > Ballendo
> >
> > P.S. BTW, Seriously interested means you'd spend 500 bucks
between
> > now and the end of the year to have one. (Some of youknow that
> steel
> > prices have shot through the roof inth elast year. I am currently
> > checking into the effect of that upon the 500 buck price.
Consider
> > that it might become 550-or 600... (let me know if that's a deal-
> > breaker when you reply.)
> >
>