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Subject: Re: 500 buck PCB mill/drill revisited

From: "mikezcnc" <eemikez@...>
Date: 2005-11-07

That machine is not going to happen. Please remove me from your
list, as I am not interested in waiting anymore. 10-4

Anybody who wants a PCB drilling machine and wants it cheap, has
only one choice:

www.kleinbauer.com

I suggest a machine named Brute but John has over there listed quite
a few machines, one even designed for cutting metal. Those machines
are real: you will see lots of them MADE around the world and they
are cheap, too. Yeah, they have a problem: you don't need a forklift
to get them into your basement... and you don't need a mortgage
either. But they do work. You can even see a PCB isolation milled
and drilled on his website.

Sincerely,

Mike






--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "lcdpublishing"
<lcdpublishing@y...> wrote:
>
> Well, let's see here. You are asking a group of people to commit
to
> purchasing a machine based on a description that would barely
> describe a piece of paper.
>
> If you actually wanted to sell something, why not provide some
> tangible information and photos...
>
> Servos or steppers
> Drives included or not
> Ball screws, acme screws, or belt drives
> Way system used
> Spindle HP
> Spindle drive
> Variable speed or constant speed speed
> Type of spindle control
> Quick change tools, Collets, chuck?
> C-Frame, bridge, or gantry machine?
>
> What else does a person need to utilize this machine? Computer,
> software, power supplies, etc...
>
> How fast is this machine? Can you provide any examples of how
fast
> it can mill isolation grooves on a given size board?
>
> Why don't you just provide some photographs and real details of
> these machines? I get hundreds of spam emails everyday asking me
to
> provide financial information to purchase "something", at least
they
> provide SOME details!
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "ballendo" <ballendo@y...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hello again,
> >
> > Actually I'm back here to get a fresh report on any interest in
> the
> > PCB mill/drill I described some time back.
> >
> > If you replied before, I still have your name on the list; but
> since
> > it's been awhile, I'd like to update the list.
> >
> > The reason is that I've found an investor who is also interested
> in
> > the PCB aspects of that machine. So what happened since last
post?
> >
> > The machine structure is made of 12GA sheet steel, laser cut and
> > pressbrake formed. Then painted and silkscreened. To do this in
> > small quantities will not allow the 500-800 buck price to be
met.
> I
> > was working with another man til recently to bring some OTHER
non-
> > PCB aimed cnc products to market (profits from which would allow
> > these PCB mills, I call them roadrunners to be made at the
desired
> > price point), but the has not kept our agreements.
> >
> > Now the new investor would prefer that we make the design he had
> > original interest in; so I'm asking to see if the quantity
desired
> > would allow that. Otherwise we'll need to introduce some of the
> > other things first, as was planned before...
> >
> > I had 35 folks here who were seriously interested in a 500 buck
> > 10x10x2-1/2 PCB mill/drill which could do drilling, isolation,
> front
> > panel engraving, and with added parts; Pick n Place, rotary axis
> > items, vinyl cutting, etc.
> >
> > A search of "500 buck" in the archive here should turn up the
> > details, so I won't waste bandwidth repeating them here.
> >
> > If you're still seriously interested in a small, precise,
> > inexpensive, capable PCB oriented CNC machine; please let me
know
> > ASAP offlist.
> >
> > Thank you,
> >
> > Ballendo
> >
> > P.S. BTW, Seriously interested means you'd spend 500 bucks
between
> > now and the end of the year to have one. (Some of youknow that
> steel
> > prices have shot through the roof inth elast year. I am
currently
> > checking into the effect of that upon the 500 buck price.
Consider
> > that it might become 550-or 600... (let me know if that's a deal-
> > breaker when you reply.)
> >
>