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Subject: Re: Looking for parts - Replacement or Repair of Keys

From: jeray31@...
Date: 2011-12-26

Hi Glynn - the manual is already in the "files" section, as dwturbo manual.zip. The mod adds a great deal of functionality to the DW8000 - Cheers, Jim

--- In DW8000@yahoogroups.com, glynn buckley <thowdnudger@...> wrote:
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> Hi, I see Mark says he has a "new" angel city turbo board.......would you be able to post the instructions to the group???...My 8k has one fittted, and I suspect it does more than I have discovered
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> Regards to all
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> GLYNN
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> To: DW8000@yahoogroups.com
> From: Bugsi@...
> Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 12:55:08 -0800
> Subject: Re: [DW8000] Re: Looking for parts - Replacement or Repair of Keys
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> Thanks for your comments.
> Yes, I'm confident the problem with my DW is the contacts in the contact
> assembly. Usually just a second strike of the continuous sounding note
> key is enough to silence it, and tweaking/cleaning of the contacts was
> all it took to go from one note sticking on to multiple notes sticking
> on. Operating my DW from a master keyboard such as a KX88 operates it
> no problem, and every other bit of electronics in my DW is operating
> perfectly. That's the real killer for me is that the ∗only∗ thing
> misbehaving in my DW8000 is a few sticking notes with the key contacts.
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> I've also considered buying a used inop DW8000 for parts or as an easy
> repair, but right now I have so many keyboards that my wife is starting
> to get ticked: DW8000, DS-8, SG1-D, KX88, and a Poly800 II. I can't
> justify having another keyboard in the house for parts at this time.
> Maybe when I get the garage cleaned out more. :-)
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> In reply to the other post questioned: Yes, it was straight Coca-cola,
> and it had been in there for some time, along with a fair amount of
> probably cat hair and dust stuck to the leftover suger-syrup splotch.
> But I was thorough and meticulous in cleaning the unit, and it has been
> a smooth operator for nearly 20 years. All traces of cola have been
> long-gone from my DW8000.
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> With a new old stock contact assembly, my DW should be operating
> literally like new, and I'll feel much better about installing my
> still-new Angel City Turbo board that I've had for around 14 years but
> never installed.
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> -Mark
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> On 12/25/11 7:02 AM, mondovermona wrote:
> > Cheers Mark,
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> > I now see that you have had a really hard tome with your keys. I have repaired now several DW8000 contact boards which had the same initial problems as yours with long lasting success. But I now learn from you that at some stage in a DW8000's life a NOS replacement is the way to go. Thank you for that teaching. BTW: The source in the Netherlands I can recomment.
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> > I apears as if after all your attempts to fix and adjust the contacts their metal's mechanical resistance did "wear out" making it impossible to restore sufficient contact pressure for a safe contact.
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> > I would love to post some photos, but am afraid that the photos cannot be so accurate and clear to inform on how the contact adjustment is to be done. But the next time I open up my DW8000 I will shoot some pictures, promised.
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> > I can only hope that your "note off" problem is not attributed to a damage of the key-sensing electronics. Did you succeed in "forcing" a "note off" at the faulty contacts by shorting them with external means (i.e. pair of tweezers)?
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> > What regards the keyboard, I experience more problems with broken keys. The are prone to break on the tip and, more serious, on the pivot back. I succeeded in glueing the broken parts together. Luckily, the broken off parts tend to be retained in the inside of the case and can be easily retrieved. After the glue is hardened I ues a very small drill to drill a hole through both glued together parts and use a rigid (stainless steel) wire that goes into the holes and glue it into place. As a reinforcement of the fix. Glueing without metal reinforcement does not hold for long, if at all. You might want to do this "surgery" under a magnifiying glass. The most critical thing is the drilling of the hole that takes the wire. For the pivotal end of the keys use a dril of less than 1 millimeter. Pay attentiion to the tempersture of the drill during drilling, else the plasic will melt. When you're finished, place the repaired keys to the high or very low octaves which I think are not
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> > often. My equipment for drilling the small holes and the glues was less expensive than the money asked out there for replacementt keys. A last word on replacement keys: Consider that the recplacment key may not match in color with your own keyboard, in particular if your afre or haven been a smoker...
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> > What I would like to say to people here is that it is a good idea to get another used, maybe partly broken, DW8000 as a reserve for futuer repairs. (Having said that I must admit that I have sold every broken DW8000 I bought for "spare purposes" because they all were easy to fix and then I gave them away to (now happy) musicians. The next broken DW8000 I will keep for sure...)
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> > Any comments? Please feel free to ask.
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