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Subject: Re: Status on main processor board?

From: "Grant Richter" <grichter@...>
Date: 2006-07-29

I guess the consensus is that he 28M is viable.

I will knock out the rest of the design sheets this coming week.

Onward and up ward.


--- In ComputerVoltageSources@yahoogroups.com, "drmabuce" <drmabuce@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I like John's point in that it addresses what i perceive to be one of
> the fundamental principles behind the creation of this forum, namely:
> alternatives.
> Grant and Harry are pursuing a cool little project at the pace that
> their busy adult lives allow. Like any real world project, their
> design and methods represent compromises among conflicting
> parameters, ie performance, durability, supportability and
> compatibility with an existing body of application software.
> But there are plenty of other ways to skin this cat and this forum is
> the best one i've encountered for a discussion of those alternatives.
> Some alternatives already exist like the PSIM, MIDIbox.org, and the
> Buchla 300(!) this forum certainly has room for subtopic segmentation.
> (IMHO software would be the best organizing principle for
> segmentation. ie PSIM-compatible, BASICStamp, etc.)
> Harry and Grant seem to be the farthest along on their endeavor but
> that shouldn't discourage anyone from pursuing a different design. I
> believe this forum exists to support their efforts with a free
> exchange of information and provide them with a communication channel
> to interested customers/subscribers.
> i enjoy the good fortune to already have a CVS platform but if
> anything , it makes me more sympathetic to the impatience of those who
> are unable to obtain one. Nevertheless this allows me the luxury of
> waiting until Grant and Harry feel very secure about the robustness of
> their design.
> But that's just me.
> It's a marketplace of ideas here and this is a good place to make
> proposals and see how much traction they get among the readers.
> Specific to the BASICStamp: i've done some hobby robotics with it and
> Parallax is certainly a better established supplier than BasicMicro,
> and the BASICStamp is better supported. i agree that it is a safer
> choice for long term support. I also believe that a processor can't be
> ∗too∗ fast , so BasicMicro has an edge there but on the other hand,
> i'm not convinced that the BasicStamp couldn't do a very good job ,
> perhaps in a smaller scale design than Grant did for the BasicAtom.
> i support Grant's and Harry's project simply because it suits my
> particular needs (and my NON-schedule) best but that shouldn't
> discourage anyone from pursuing a different project.
>
> Best,
> -doc
>
>
>
> --- In ComputerVoltageSources@yahoogroups.com, "John Loffink"
> <jloffink@> wrote:
> >
> > BasicMicro is selling the 28M PRO part on their website and it is
> supported
> > in their software, both for the last six months or longer. Other than
> > publishing a data sheet that shows four more analog inputs, what would
> > constitute a clear indication of their intentions?
> >
> > It is obvious that BasicMicro is a small time operation. That hasn't
> > changed since they brought out their product.
> >
> > If we want to play it safe, then a Parallax BASIC STAMP Product is the
> > obvious way to go, with Parallax having created the BASIC
> microcontroller
> > market. That throws out any PSIM program compatibility though.
> >
> > The Parallax BASIC STAMP top performing products are advertised at
> 12-19,000
> > BASIC instructions per second compared to the ATOMPRO 24/28 at 100,000
> > instructions per second. Would we want to trade off apparent
> performance
> > for potential longevity of supply? That's a valid topic of
> discussion. So
> > is the need for PSIM compatibility.
> >
> > John Loffink
> > The Microtonal Synthesis Web Site
> > http://www.microtonal-synthesis.com
> > The Wavemakers Synthesizer Web Site
> > http://www.wavemakers-synth.com
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: ComputerVoltageSources@yahoogroups.com
> > > [mailto:ComputerVoltageSources@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Grant
> Richter
> > >
> > > The problem is that I am not getting a warm fuzzy about Basic Micros
> > > commitment to the
> > > Pro module product line.
> > >
> > > If we go to all this trouble and they discontinue the 28M, where
> are we?
> > >
> > > On the other side, the 50 or so sales of 28M modules that would
> come from
> > > this board,
> > > might be enough to get some momentum behind the 28M product.
> > >
> > > The responsibility falls to the manufacturer to move the product
> forward,
> > > or give a clear
> > > indication of their intentions.
> > >
> >
>