Just to put in my 2 cents....
This gets my nomination for the most grown-up and dignified response I have
ever seen on a list or newsgroup.
Not that it is worth all that much...but you sir, are a gentleman and have
earned my respect..
Actually BOTH you guys, understandable that one get's a little hot at what
was perceived to have happened, but both the first response and Jons'
response...well, I am awed.
Think what a great world this would be if other net denizens took a lesson!
For that matter, world leaders could learn a thing or two!
Okay, maybe I am stretching it, but It truly made my day to see such a great
resolution of a problem. How many times would the first post been the first
salvo over the bow of the other, and would have degenerated down to just
bickering...
Nice job!
Jim
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----- Original Message -----
From: "jondl_2000" <jondl_2000@...>
To: <AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 4:37 PM
Subject: Really POed at EX5Tech (was Re: [AN1x] Online patch database
ideas..
> --- In AN1x-list@y..., "idealordid" <yahoo@p...> wrote:
> > --- In AN1x-list@y..., "jondl_2000" <jondl_2000@y...> wrote:
> > > --- In AN1x-list@y..., "jondl_2000" <jondl_2000@y...> wrote:
> > > > --- In AN1x-list@y..., "idealordid" <yahoo@p...> wrote:
> > > > > Anyways, sounds like an interesting project and I'd be
> happy
> > > to
> > > > house
> > > > > the patch library and contribute a little programming time.
> > > > FWIW, I
> > > > > recently translated the entire AN1X patch library (99
> banks) to
> > > > EX5
> > > > > format thanks to a utility that a fellow EX5 owner wrote,
> > > > exFactory
> > > > > 3.0. So the user base for this library has rapidly
> expanded.
> > > > Plus
> > > > > I'd like to support my other synths, FS1R and SY77 and
> DX7,
> > > > etc...
> > > > >
> > > > > Jeff Harrington
> > > > > http://jeffharrington.org
> > > >
> > > > Hi Jeff,
> > > >
> > > > How considerate of the EX5 community to take our work
> > > without
> > > > asking. How and when did they plan to ask permission or
> > > > express their thanks for our efforts? I can't say I'm happy
> that
> > > > nobody thought to at least inquire if anybody objected to
> their
> > > > data being repackaged and distrubuted in a format other
> than
> > > > what it was intended.
> > > >
> > > > Where are these EX5 converted Voices hosted? I'd like to
> > > speak
> > > > with whomever is hosting my work. Please cease
> distributing
> > > > any converted archives which contain any voices from my
> AN1x
> > > > Voice banks. My voice banks can be easily identified by the
> > > > leading characters JDLX.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advance for your cooperation.
> > > >
> > > > regards,
> > > >
> > > > Jon
> > >
> > > I've found the entire AN1x User Voice archive from thist list
> has
> > > been repackaged and redistrubuted at EX5Tech.
> > > http://www.ex5tech.com/
> > >
> > > I've written EX5Tech expressing my displeasure and request
> > > they remove my JDLX Voice banks from their web site. I
> made it
> > > clear that I was speaking only for myself and not any other
> AN1x
> > > user.
> > >
> > > regards,
> > >
> > > Jon
> >
> > Hi, this is Jeff Harrington the guy who did most of the
> translation.
> > As a member of the AN1X list, I acted in good faith in my
> > legitimately given right (your permission to AN1X list members)
> to
> > use the AN1X patch library.
> >
> > I regret that you're pissed off by my actions. I had no idea this
> > would happen - as I'm sure nobody at EX5Tech did and ask for
> your
> > permission and apologize after the fact.
> >
> > We appreciate your hard work and have enjoyed immenselely
> the
> > entirety of the patch library. From one Yamaha user to another
> I can
> > only say, "Bravo!".
> >
> > Jeff Harrington
>
> Hi Jeff,
>
> Now that I've had an opportunity to throw my little tantrum and
> subsequently chill out maybe we can put this into perspective.
>
> First of all, as a subscribing member of AN1x-list you certainly
> are entitled to make use of the contributed AN1x User Voices.
>
> Second, I should have taken a moment longer to realize
> translating the user Voices from .an1 format to a format suitable
> for the EX∗ series is analogous to the proprietary sample format
> translation efforts of after market vendors. To pretend otherwise
> would be hypocritical - particularly since I'm actively involved as a
> beta tester in such developments.
>
> Third, it would have been considerate to have been consulted by
> EX5Tech before hand but what's done is done - I'm glad there
> are apparently so many users who find our efforts worthwhile.
>
> So that my ranting and raving is better understood, I've actively
> encouraged and participated in Voice contributions in this
> community with two ambitions: 1) That somebody smarter than
> me will step up and let me know how I might improve my own
> programming and 2) that my efforts may help somebody new to
> synthesis say "I didn't know you could that!" I wrongly interpreted
> the EX5Tech effort as siphoning off our work without some
> contribution in return. Having reviewed your own web site and
> EX5Tech I see that you do indeed give back to the community.
>
> I'm willing to write this off as a misunderstanding and hope we
> all can take a lesson away from this.
>
> Apologies.
>
> Jon
>
>
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