The main reason I would like to have the drummer control the tempo of the
sequencers is so the band is able to change the tempo in songs live. That
"Human Clock" device sounds like it would work. Mostly just need the time
change of the drummer to change the time in the sequencer.
We are planning on setting up a monitoring system for on stage for everyone
in the band to be used live and could push a click track through that
possibly...but then again it is hard to change the tempo live.
----- Original Message -----
From: "bruce w." <brucew@...>
To: <AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 1:16 PM
Subject: Re: [AN1x-list] OT: sync issue
> much easier for ∗you∗ to put out a click track to your drummer and let HIM
sync to you.
>
> But let me tell you, as a drummer, you might meet some inital resistance
from him. :) Actually, it's not uncommon for drummers to use them onstage --
particularly when there's sequences involved.
>
> John Robinson prefers a cowbell, I always liked a tamborine.
>
> here's some info on click tracks:
> http://www.schirmer.com/balletmec/09.html
>
> bruce w
> orlando, fl
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bruce Wahler
> To: AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 11:24 AM
> Subject: Re: [AN1x-list] OT: sync issue
>
>
> Jake,
>
> >I have been a member of the list for sometime now but normally just
> >lurk. I now have a question even though it is a bit off topic of the
> >list. I was woundering if it would be possible to midi sync all my
gear
> >with a live drummer. Either off the hi-hat or something similar.
Mostly
> >want to be able to sync drum machine and sequencer with the live
drummer.
>
> A company called Kahler used to make an item called the "Human Clock" in
> the late 80's that does exactly what you want. It takes a 1/4" signal
in,
> averages it into a tempo, and then sends that tempo out as a MIDI clock.
I
> don't know how hard they are to find these days.
>
> Alternatively, many sequencers have such a function; in Cakewalk, it's
> called "tap tempo." I know you can use it when recording; I'm not sure
> about the live aspects.
>
> Now, the down side: These devices/methods work wonderfully/terribly,
> depending on the music's (and drummer's) style. In order for the
> synchronization to work, the drummer has to put out an evenly-spaced
series
> of pulses to create a tempo average. What the computer/device does is
keep
> a running average of the time signature of the last say, 16 hits, and
> figures that this sample is a good representation of the tempo as a
> whole. If your drummer has been called a "metronome" as a compliment,
and
> plays the hi-hat or bass drum on every beat, you're going to like the
> results; if your drummer plays all over the map, but always averages out
to
> the right beat, it's not going to work as well. Also, certain musical
> styles -- reggae, for example -- push and tug on the beat throughout the
> song, and this can upset the system, too.
>
> I hope this helps.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> -BW
>
> --
> Bruce Wahler
> Design Consultant
> Ashby SolutionsT www.ashbysolutions.com
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