<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">Totally different UI's for LTspice and KiCad of course. I hate the UI in LTspice because the complete toolbar is missing on the Mac version. Adding models to ngspice in Kicad is pretty simple: Open the properties of the regular symbol, add simulation model and browse to e.g. the downloaded pspice model from TI. No messing with creating a symbol like in LTspice. You have to remember to use the Spice symbols for your ground, and I always forget that.<div><br></div><div>I have never compared the results between these two, could be interesting. With regards to UI, KiCad is the clear winner. But you need to learn a new tool (ngspice), which prevented me from using it for the longest time. :-)<div><br></div><div>It looks like ngspice is actively developed, but my KiCad v8 is two versions behind. (Perhaps they only update it on major updates, so that would be yearly.)</div><div><br></div><div>Ben</div><div><br id="lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On 29 Dec 2024, at 17:34, Steve via Synth-diy <synth-diy@synth-diy.org> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div>
  
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Ah, how does the one in KiCAD compare
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 28.12.2024 18:59, Ben Stuyts wrote:<br>
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      For one thing it’s windows-only, so no, I can’t use it. Still use
      the somewhat outdated Mac version of LTspice. I now tend to use
      KiCAD’s built in ngspice every now and then, as it’s already in
      KiCAD. (<a href="https://www.kicad.org/discover/spice/" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.kicad.org/discover/spice/</a>)
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              <div><p>Hey list,</p><p>the guy who originally made LTspice, IIRC, some time
                  ago started a supposedly improved, in several regards,
                  simulator named Qspice. Working for a different
                  company, I heard rumors stock models are hence not by
                  LT but the other vendor... perhaps not super important
                  to everyone.<br>
                  Supposedly, you can code simulated elaborate
                  functionality in C++ and Verilog.<br>
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                  Here's something about what's different, and an
                  article geared towards LTspice users.</p><p>If anyone on here is familiar with both to feel like
                  commenting anything the articles don't mentionm,
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                <div style="font-family: verdana; font-size: 12px;"><a href="https://hackaday.com/2023/08/25/qspice-picks-up-where-ltspice-left-us/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" moz-do-not-send="true">https://hackaday.com/2023/08/25/qspice-picks-up-where-ltspice-left-us/</a></div>
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                  Introduction to QSPICE for LTspice Users, Part 1</div>
                <div style="font-family: verdana; font-size: 12px;"><a href="https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/technical-articles/introduction-to-qspice-for-ltspice-users-part-1" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/technical-articles/introduction-to-qspice-for-ltspice-users-part-1</a></div>
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