<p dir="ltr" style="margin-top:0; margin-bottom:0;">There's no need to reset by Q3, so this original connection may be omited and reset input is then free to use without fear.</p>
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<p dir="ltr" style="margin-top:0; margin-bottom:0;">Roman </p><br><br>---- Użytkownik S Ridley via Synth-diy napisał ----<br><br><div dir="ltr">In the stock TKB the 4520B is supposed to be reset by Q3 going high, which is why Q3 is tied to reset pin.<div>If you want to add an external reset, you need to OR Q3 and your new reset pulse - either with an OR gate or maybe a couple of diodes.</div><div>Having the inverter out and Q3 out tied directly together is never a good idea. </div><div><br></div><div>Steve</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, 22 Jun 2024 at 14:14, Roman Sowa via Synth-diy <<a href="mailto:synth-diy@synth-diy.org">synth-diy@synth-diy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">First of all, tying 13 with 15 is pointless. It is there only to reset <br>
the counter after 4 clocks, making it modulo 4, but since you want only <br>
2 LSBs (pins <a href="tel:11-12">11-12</a>) there's no difference if it counts to 4, 8 or 16. <br>
Might have more sense if it was 4518 and not 4520. So cut this <br>
connection. Like it is now, the inverter's reset pulse forces counter <br>
output (13) to high level, so if the inverter isn't strong enough, <br>
external reset will not work. Likeweise if the inverter is stronger than <br>
the counter the <a href="tel:13-15">13-15</a> link will not work anyway. Long story short - if <br>
it works, depends on actual chips used, year, maker. Short story shorter <br>
- bad design.<br>
<br>
When you say something works once and then needs power cycle, all I'm <br>
thinking of in latch-up condition. Could happen if you force output or <br>
input above supply level. Is that inverter supplied from 12V too? Unless <br>
the cap in the input is like 10uF or so. I'd put 100n max there.<br>
Maybe try to replace the inverter with a transistor and leave the poor <br>
pin 13 alone. You could even make whole reset conditioning circuitry <br>
with one transistor.<br>
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Roman<br>
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W dniu <a href="tel:2024-06-22">2024-06-22</a> o 00:01, denshi via Synth-diy pisze:<br>
> im trying to add a reset to a CD4520 but running into an issue:<br>
><br>
> in the TKB serge uses a CD4520 to handle the vertical clock (cycling <br>
> between four vertical rows of pots)<br>
> here is a relevant snippet of the schematic (as found on hyperreal)<br>
> i copy and pasted the clock input to use as the “vertical reset” and <br>
> am sending that to an inverter to the bottom half reset - it works, <br>
> but only once, and then not again until i power cycle. am i missing <br>
> something simple here?<br>
><br>
> Inline image<br>
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