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<div class="elementToProof"><span style="font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Isn't that mostly the difference between engineers and scientists in any case ? Apart
from exceptions like Bob Widler who declared all existing IC designers as incompetent, we all tend to look at existing solutions to any problem and see where we can improve upon them.<br>
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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size:11pt" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> Synth-diy <synth-diy-bounces@synth-diy.org> on behalf of Quincas Moreira via Synth-diy <synth-diy@synth-diy.org><br>
<b>Sent:</b> 18 October 2023 19:23<br>
<b>To:</b> cheater cheater <cheater00social@gmail.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> SDIY <synth-diy@synth-diy.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [sdiy] Chat GPT Image analysis.</font>
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<div dir="auto">Interesting, but my experience is not that it continues my sentences, rather that it replies to my queries with very useful information and ideas. I know nothing is original and it’s derived from farming existing information, but the result
is far more interesting, engaging, useful than simple predictive text. And it has already learned language it was not trained on, etc. I’m not scared of it, but I’m intrigued and interested, it’s neural network and seems to be evolving beyond what even its
programmers expected.</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="x_gmail_attr">On Wed 18 Oct 2023 at 11:43 cheater cheater via Synth-diy <<a href="mailto:synth-diy@synth-diy.org">synth-diy@synth-diy.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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> I have to say I am very excited to see where this GPT thing goes but also a little frightened by it.<br>
<br>
most people who say they are either excited or frightened by GPT say<br>
that because they are mystified by the software, in turn because they<br>
don't know what it does. So let me give you a short description.<br>
<br>
My background: I worked as a software engineer in some of the most<br>
famous AI startups on the recent market, which created less public<br>
competitors to GPT and ChatGPT.<br>
<br>
The short of it is: remember on your smart phone, when you're typing<br>
out a message, and it shows you the next word you might type above the<br>
keyboard? And you can tap it? Sometimes you can keep tapping and a<br>
sentence will come out? That's the core idea behind GPT.<br>
<br>
Basically, what GPT does - "Generative Predictive Text" is the<br>
original moniker which later got rebranded to sound more mystifying -<br>
is that given a start of a sentence, it finishes that sentence in the<br>
most expected way.<br>
<br>
So let's say you start with:<br>
<br>
Trees are<br>
<br>
GPT has read every text on the planet. It has a frequency table of<br>
every word that comes after "Trees are". Example continuations are:<br>
<br>
Trees are green ... (rank 72)<br>
Trees are large ... (rank 1)<br>
Trees are wooden ... (rank 15)<br>
<br>
It finds out the most popular word after "Trees are" and tacks it on.<br>
<br>
Then, it repeats it with the next one. For example, let's say the most<br>
popular word was "wooden". Then the new prompt for it is:<br>
<br>
Trees are large<br>
<br>
continuations for this might be:<br>
<br>
Trees are large plants ... (rank 7)<br>
Trees are large, green ... (rank 52999)<br>
Trees are large and ... (rank 122)<br>
<br>
and so on.<br>
<br>
Now OpenAI's GPT actually takes more context than two words. It'll<br>
look at the whole paragraph you put in, and figure out the next most<br>
probable word to tack on to the end. But it only ever does that: it<br>
goes one, word, by, one, word.<br>
<br>
GPT isn't smart. It doesn't know what trees are. When you ask it what<br>
trees are it doesn't think to itself "hmm, what is my definition of a<br>
tree, an object I know of?". For GPT, trees don't exist. It has no<br>
object permanence - like a toddler. If we started a campaign, where on<br>
every forum, mailing list, news website, and encyclopedia we say that<br>
trees are made out of metal, GPT 5 will soon enough start telling<br>
people that:<br>
<br>
Trees are made out of _____ (inserted most popular word: "metal").<br>
<br>
It's like the kid taken to the blackboard that doesn't know how to<br>
answer the teacher's question: "Johnny, what is the capitol of<br>
Colombia?" "It's... uh... er... uh..." (2 minutes pass) "OK, Johnny,<br>
B...." "Berlin?" "Bo...." "Bo...dapest?" "Bog..." "Bog roll!"<br>
<br>
There's no reason to be scared of a precocious phone keyboard.<br>
<br>
And it isn't going anywhere, because interesting output requires<br>
operating on concepts - not just doing guess-the-next-word.<br>
<br>
GPT has one great application: it's great for if you want to be lied<br>
to. It's great on assignments like "tell me a sci fi story" or "tell<br>
me about faeries". But otherwise it has the IQ of an absolute idiot.<br>
<br>
If you want to understand how GPT "thinks", play an online game called<br>
Semantle. (google it, I don't want to put in links and end up in spam<br>
folders). Once you've won a few games, you know a little bit about how<br>
predictive text sees the world of words.<br>
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On Thu, Oct 12, 2023 at 10:27 PM Kevin Walsh via Synth-diy<br>
<<a href="mailto:synth-diy@synth-diy.org" target="_blank">synth-diy@synth-diy.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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> A quiet week so...<br>
><br>
> OpenAI.com GPT4.0 has just released image analysis.<br>
><br>
> I tried it for a VCO circuit (Schmitt/Inverter) and it gave a decent explanation of the circuit.<br>
><br>
> I got it to write Arduino code for a MIDI controlled baby8 sequencer with nothing but prompts.<br>
><br>
> I have to say I am very excited to see where this GPT thing goes but also a little frightened by it.<br>
><br>
> Thoughts?<br>
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