<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Yes, BBDs are still produced by both CoolAudio and Xvive. There are various types available, covering 1024, 2048, and 4096 stage devices.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">For flangers, getting the delay short enough is usually the problem. It's easy to make a delay of a few msecs, but pushing the clock higher to get really short delays and notches that go way up (0.2msec = 2.5KHz, 180 degrees out of phase, for example) is much harder. 500KHz is good, but only just enough.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Tom</div><div class=""><div class=""><div><br class=""></div>
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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 7 Feb 2023, at 18:55, rrsounds via Synth-diy <<a href="mailto:synth-diy@synth-diy.org" class="">synth-diy@synth-diy.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Generally speaking, BBD devices have a limited number of “buckets." The faster you cycle through them, the shorter the delay. 500kHz is going to result in a pretty short delay. On the positive side, the S/N is also related to cycling rate, resulting in a much cleaner result at higher rates. <div class="">Are BBDs even still produced?</div><div class="">David Reaves<br class=""><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Feb 7, 2023, at 19:18:08PM, Rutger Vlek via Synth-diy <<a href="mailto:synth-diy@synth-diy.org" class="">synth-diy@synth-diy.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Dear list,</span><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">For a while I've been working on a guitar pedal board for personal use. I'm about to build the second revision of a solid state pre-amp, and was thinking about possible modulation effects too. I would love a nice (stereo) BBD flanger/chorus, but felt a bit fed-up with all the 'classic' designs, particularly the traditional clocking scheme, usually with a limited range, lack of current drive (to overcome capacitance of the BBD clock input) and strictly linear modulation (calling for a hyper-triangle modulation source).</div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">Having some experience with designing saw- and tri-core VCO's around the 2164, I was wondering how easy it would be to push the design of a typical tri-core VCO with an 2164-based expo converter into higher frequencies (let's say up to 500kHz) and use it to clock a BBD? Has anyone tried? Or are there fundamental reasons why such frequencies are not possible? I've never (intentionally) worked with circuits outside of the audio bandwidth...</div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">Rutger</div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></div>_______________________________________________<br class="">Synth-diy mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:Synth-diy@synth-diy.org" class="">Synth-diy@synth-diy.org</a><br class="">http://synth-diy.org/mailman/listinfo/synth-diy<br class="">Selling or trading? Use marketplace@synth-diy.org<br class=""></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></body></html>