<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">Hi there</div><div class=""><br class=""></div>I can clarify the situation with sending goods into the UK as I deal with that everyday.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Those laws were made for large companies and platforms it’s a tradeoff with the UK capacity to handle large shipping volumes</div><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Everything has to do with the 135£ good value threshold (excluding shipping)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><b class="">- goods with a declared value above 135£</b></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Works like anywhere in the world , VAT is paid by the buyer , you will be asked for VAT to get your parcel</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><b class="">- goods below 135£ (that’s where the fun starts) : </b></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">VAT is taken at the source, the seller has to pay for it.</div><div class="">If you work with a large platform like Ebay, they will do that for you</div><div class="">Some platforms ask you to include the VAT in your price (awful) other will add it on top (better)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">But if you are selling directly to a customer , then you are supposed to collect it yourself and then pay it back to the UK</div><div class="">Which is totally crazy , they are asking the whole world to register for VAT in the UK.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">So you are supposed, as a small foreign seller to deal with the UK administration (like we don’t already have our own)</div><div class="">This is mostly impossible for small companies (imagine if all countries did that ! we’d have hundreds of VAT declarations to do)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">That’s when reality kicks in. Why did they do that ?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Simple : they can’t handle the volume (most shipments being low value they figured it would work if they shifted the workload on everyone else)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">So what happens in reality : No one checks if you paid or not</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">If declared value is below 135£ no one will ask a thing, wether you paid VAT or not. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">So the trick is simple , always declare a value below 135£….</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I hope that helps</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Best,</div><div class="">Raphael</div><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">Le 10 janv. 2022 à 21:14, Tom Wiltshire <<a href="mailto:tom@electricdruid.net" class="">tom@electricdruid.net</a>> a écrit :</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="">That hasn't been my experience. I've been sending stuff to the UK for a year since Brexit, and so far, no-one has reported either being hit by VAT charges or things disappearing. It looks to me like UK customs are waving stuff through to prevent accusations of problems at the border due to Brexit. There's a government in charge who really wants this to work, and wants it to be seen to be working.<br class=""><br class="">Ultimately, I'm sure Electric Druid will have to register for UK VAT and do the required hoop-jumping to send parcels to the UK, but I'm holding out as long as I can, since it's a pain in the ass and another overhead I can well do without. Other International orders simply charge VAT at the frontier if required - the UK can do the same. My opinion is that the reluctance to do this stems from the fact that it makes it obvious that this is a cost applied by the UK government and therefore not something they can blame on Europe.<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On 10 Jan 2022, at 20:02, Mike Bryant <<a href="mailto:mbryant@futurehorizons.com" class="">mbryant@futurehorizons.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Was that before the latest regulations ? They can't even send small quantities of stuff to the UK or I think most of the EU now unless they've registered for VAT. If it's under £175 (?) and the VAT isn't paid in advance it just gets binned at customs.<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">Synth-diy mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:Synth-diy@synth-diy.org" class="">Synth-diy@synth-diy.org</a><br class="">http://synth-diy.org/mailman/listinfo/synth-diy<br class="">Selling or trading? Use marketplace@synth-diy.org<br class=""></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></div></div></body></html>