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    <p>Personally I feel this is Coolaudio muscling it - I have used
      their 2164s before but prefer to support the small guys who've
      made the bold step to work on producing chips - Alfa & Sound
      Semiconductor. <br>
      I've still yet to really test the Alfa samples I've received but
      they've been good to deal with (I have a roll of S08 AS394 matched
      NPNs to use shortly) - SoundSemi have been really excellent &
      have great support & documentation for their small but classy
      range of chips.</p>
    <p>Slight offtopic, sorry ;)<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 27/03/2021 18:34, Tom Wiltshire
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      CoolAudio lowered their prices significantly is what happened, for
      both V3340 and V3320. Alfa’s previously much lower prices might
      well be a part of the reason why. Either way, Coolaudio's chips
      suddenly got a lot more appealing.
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      <div class="">The 3320 has a maximum current (100uA or so) for the
        resonance control input. As long as you put a large enough
        resistor in front of it for the voltage you’re using, there’s no
        problem. It’d be nice if they made this more obvious, instead of
        merely implying it with a 100K resistor on the datasheet
        circuit, but that’s exactly the same as the CEM3320, and as the
        CEM datasheet.<br class="">
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              <div class="">On 27 Mar 2021, at 15:57, Benjamin Tremblay
                via Synth-diy <<a
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                  have noticed vendors are moving away from some of the
                  AS chips.
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                    <div class="">Coolaudio is eating their lunch.</div>
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                        <div class="">On Mar 27, 2021, at 11:46 AM,
                          Benjamin Tremblay <<a
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                              style="font-size: 14px;" class="">I have
                              not tried the VCO, but have had great
                              results with the 3320 VCF and the 3360
                              VCA. It’s pretty much Pro One for the
                              masses.</span>
                            <div style="font-size: 14px;" class="">The
                              3320 is easy to damage if you over-power
                              the resonance control. </div>
                            <div class=""><span style="font-size: 14px;"
                                class="">The 3360 can be tamed once you
                                work within the correct control voltage
                                range. </span><br style="font-size:
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                              <div class=""><span style="font-size:
                                  14px;" class="">I’m an idiot. I don’t
                                  have a scope. But they sound great and
                                  I was able to get them stood up and
                                  move on to the rest of my project. </span></div>
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                              <div class=""><span style="font-size:
                                  14px;" class="">I’m also using a
                                  number of AS2164 chips. I have never
                                  used other brands, but these work
                                  great for computer-controlled mixers
                                  of analog signals.</span></div>
                              <div class=""><span style="font-size:
                                  14px;" class="">I made no effort
                                  to squeeze any gain out of them using
                                  negative voltage bias on the control
                                  pins. They work fine for
                                  my application.</span></div>
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                                <div style="font-size: 14px;" class="">I
                                  still have some 3330 VCA chips. They
                                  were very frustrating to use.  They
                                  seem to require a low-impedance
                                  voltage divider that gets very noisy
                                  without careful placement of
                                  capacitors. </div>
                                <div class=""><span style="font-size:
                                    14px;" class="">Maybe if I go back
                                    and try to breadboard them after
                                    having learned the 3360 I could be
                                    more successful. </span><br
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                                      <div class="">On Mar 27, 2021, at
                                        11:19 AM, cheater cheater <<a
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                                        <div class="">I was wondering if
                                          anyone had any experiences
                                          with ALFA clones of<br
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                                          classic chips. Are they good?
                                          Is anything missing? Are they
                                          very crap?<br class="">
                                          No difference at all? Any
                                          specific ones to watch out
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