<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">haha yes, very good points. TL074 are $0.18 where I get them (<a href="http://lcsc.com" class="">lcsc.com</a>), and they take up much less than 0.7" in SMD. Component reduction is part of the art (and neurosis) for me. Your cavalier use of a 2164 in a control circuit is at once offensive and inspiring! :P <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Chris <br class=""><div class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Dec 3, 2020, at 11:37 PM, David G Dixon <<a href="mailto:dixon@mail.ubc.ca" class="">dixon@mail.ubc.ca</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">
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<div dir="ltr" align="left" class=""><span class="570053605-04122020"><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial" class="">1) Buffers are awesome.</font></span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left" class=""><span class="570053605-04122020"><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial" class="">2) TL074 opamps are $0.50 each.</font></span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left" class=""><span class="570053605-04122020"><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial" class="">3) it takes up 0.7" of PCB space.</font></span></div>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left" class=""><span class="570053605-04122020"><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial" class="">I don't really see a downside, and it just works without fuss
or compromise. Embrace the buffer!</font></span></div><br class="">
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<font size="2" face="Tahoma" class=""><b class="">From:</b> Chris McDowell
[<a href="mailto:declareupdate@gmail.com" class="">mailto:declareupdate@gmail.com</a>] <br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b> Thursday, December 03, 2020
9:27 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b> David G Dixon<br class=""><b class="">Cc:</b> Dakota Melin;
<a href="mailto:Synth-diy@synth-diy.org" class="">Synth-diy@synth-diy.org</a><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b> Re: [sdiy] CEM3340 question --
interpolating scanners (again)<br class=""></font><br class=""></div>
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<div class="">I goofed, the spread is more like 300mV. if you barely tweak the bottom
resistor, you can narrow it to ~120mV. If you tweak your expectations, you can
use whatever lol <br class="">
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<div dir="ltr" align="left" class=""><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial" class=""><span class="869543400-04122020">Here's my schematics (attached as PNG files).
The trapezoid generator (picture 2) looks remarkably similar to Chris
McDowell's. These schematics were generated in
Multisim.</span></font></div>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left" class=""><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial" class=""><span class="869543400-04122020">On the Control schematic (picture 1), the pot on the
left is the Width control, and the pot in the centre is the Fader. Both
are subject to voltage control (as indicated by the little function generator
graphics). The 1.87k resistor on the Width pot is to limit the
upper voltage to about 10V, and the weird buffer circuit on the bottom of the
Fader pot is to set the bottom fader voltage to -12mV.
Originally I had this grounded, but the voices wouldn't shut off
completely when the fader was all the way down if the Width control voltage
was low. Putting this tiny buffered voltage there fixed it, and I
had a spare opamp on the board, so no worries.</span></font></div>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left" class=""><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial" class=""><span class="869543400-04122020">The opamp with the 9.09k resistors is there
to apply a linear transformation to the Width voltage. This
linear equation is V_2 = (V_1 + 2)*5/11. This voltage becomes the
upper voltage on the Fader pot, and that is what guarantees that the
trapezoids fit nicely into the Fader window at all Width settings.
This voltage also drives a linear VCA which scales the incoming Fader control
voltage so that this CV has the same effect on channel scanning
regardless of the Width setting. </span></font></div><br class="">
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<font size="2" face="Tahoma" class=""><b class="">From:</b> Dakota Melin [<a href="mailto:dksynth@gmail.com" class="">mailto:dksynth@gmail.com</a>] <br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b>
Thursday, December 03, 2020 10:38 AM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b> David G
Dixon<br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b> Re: [sdiy] CEM3340 question -- interpolating scanners
(again)<br class=""></font><br class=""></div>
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<div dir="auto" class="">Would love to see these new scanner schematics! </div>
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<div dir="auto" class="">-dk</div>
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