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size=2 face=Arial>Cavalier? I actually used two 2164 VCAs -- half the
chip, and left half of it unconnected. I strive to put at least one 2164
chip in every circuit I ever design. It's sorta my
"thing."</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><B>From:</B> Chris McDowell
[mailto:declareupdate@gmail.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, December 03, 2020
9:49 PM<BR><B>To:</B> David G Dixon<BR><B>Cc:</B> Dakota Melin;
Synth-diy@synth-diy.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [sdiy] CEM3340 question --
interpolating scanners (again)<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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Non-UBC Email]</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN>haha yes, very good points. TL074 are $0.18
where I get them (<A href="http://lcsc.com">lcsc.com</A>), and they take up much
less than 0.7" in SMD. Component reduction is part of the art (and neurosis) for
me. Your cavalier use of a 2164 in a control circuit is at once offensive and
inspiring! :P
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<DIV>Chris <BR>
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<DIV>On Dec 3, 2020, at 11:37 PM, David G Dixon <<A
href="mailto:dixon@mail.ubc.ca">dixon@mail.ubc.ca</A>> wrote:</DIV><BR
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size=2 face=Arial>Chris,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=570053605-04122020><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>1) Buffers are awesome.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=570053605-04122020><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>2) TL074 opamps are $0.50 each.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=570053605-04122020><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>3) it takes up 0.7" of PCB space.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=570053605-04122020><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>I don't really see a downside, and it just works without
fuss or compromise. Embrace the buffer!</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><B>From:</B> Chris McDowell [<A
href="mailto:declareupdate@gmail.com">mailto:declareupdate@gmail.com</A>]
<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, December 03, 2020 9:27 PM<BR><B>To:</B> David G
Dixon<BR><B>Cc:</B> Dakota Melin; <A
href="mailto:Synth-diy@synth-diy.org">Synth-diy@synth-diy.org</A><BR><B>Subject:</B>
Re: [sdiy] CEM3340 question -- interpolating scanners
(again)<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV>I goofed, the spread is more like 300mV. if you barely tweak the bottom
resistor, you can narrow it to ~120mV. If you tweak your expectations, you can
use whatever lol <BR>
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<DIV>On Dec 3, 2020, at 6:45 PM, David G Dixon <<A
href="mailto:dixon@mail.ubc.ca">dixon@mail.ubc.ca</A>> wrote:</DIV><BR
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
class=869543400-04122020>Here's my schematics (attached as PNG files).
The trapezoid generator (picture 2) looks remarkably similar to Chris
McDowell's. These schematics were generated in
Multisim.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
class=869543400-04122020>On the Control schematic (picture 1), the pot on
the left is the Width control, and the pot in the centre is the Fader.
Both are subject to voltage control (as indicated by the little function
generator graphics). The 1.87k resistor on the Width pot is
to limit the upper voltage to about 10V, and the weird buffer circuit on the
bottom of the Fader pot is to set the bottom
fader voltage to -12mV. Originally I had this grounded,
but the voices wouldn't shut off completely when the fader was all the
way down if the Width control voltage was low. Putting this tiny
buffered voltage there fixed it, and I had a spare opamp on the board, so no
worries.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
class=869543400-04122020>The opamp with the 9.09k resistors is there
to apply a linear transformation to the Width voltage. This
linear equation is V_2 = (V_1 + 2)*5/11. This voltage becomes the
upper voltage on the Fader pot, and that is what guarantees that the
trapezoids fit nicely into the Fader window at all Width
settings. This voltage also drives a linear VCA which scales the
incoming Fader control voltage so that this CV has the same effect on
channel scanning regardless of the Width setting.
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<FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><B>From:</B> Dakota Melin [<A
href="mailto:dksynth@gmail.com">mailto:dksynth@gmail.com</A>]
<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, December 03, 2020 10:38 AM<BR><B>To:</B> David G
Dixon<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [sdiy] CEM3340 question -- interpolating
scanners (again)<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV dir=auto>Would love to see these new scanner schematics! </DIV>
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<DIV dir=auto>-dk</DIV>
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<DIV class=gmail_quote> </DIV></DIV></DIV><SPAN
id=cid:2F929279-59DF-4F8B-83DD-471201021BFE@lan><New Scanner Schematic
3.png></SPAN><SPAN
id=cid:ED27DE9A-9D1C-4FAA-8CD2-A5998836EE12@lan><New Scanner Schematic
1.png></SPAN><SPAN
id=cid:1AECC4D3-6C7A-4C3F-9213-D84D4A062FD1@lan><New Scanner Schematic
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